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[SwingsitlikeHogan]

To be fair, out of the Labour and Tory manifestos, only the Labour one was actually costed.

People may disagree with their plans to raise taxes on the wealthy, but that is their costed plan. I think the "the rich will up sticks" argument is overplayed - there are plenty of places with better tax arrangements than the UK for these people but they choose to stay here.

As for the Tories - a completely uncosted manifesto. No indication of how they will pay for leaving the single market or the reduction in immigration. It's amazing the media hasn't picked up on this more. If it was Labour I imagine it would be front page news.

I note that it is reported today (in my i newspaper) the Centre for Economics and Business Research estimate that the best case scenario for UK leaving the EU would result in a 1.4% gross loss in GDP; or £25bn a year. With worst-case scenario leading to a 2% loss in GDP - equating to £36bn a year.

Then taking into account the impact of slashing immigration to under 100,000 - the OBR estimates that reducing net migration to 185,000 by 2021 could cost £5.9bn (reduced tax take and higher prop of non-working people).

And so against that background and faced with such numbers perhaps not surprising that the Tory manifesto is uncosted and May trying to get a load of money for social care out of inheritances - because there isn't going to be any from anywhere else without big hikes in taxes.

 

[FairwayDodger]

“We do not believe in untrammelled free markets. We reject the cult of selfish individualism. We abhor social division, injustice, unfairness and inequality. We see rigid dogma and ideology not just as needless but as dangerous.”

Not exactly the thinking behind Tory policies of the last four decades and how they have been sold to the electorate...in fact this sounds more like something a Christian democrat would have at the core of their beliefs and policies.

Sounds like deceitful spin to me.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Sounds like deceitful spin to me.

Well - her first go at 'wealth' distribution - the dementia tax and associated increased starting point for paying social care costs - isn't going that well. I predict a Tory 'walk-back' on the dementia tax today - though it won't be presented by May - as she is strong and stable.

 

[FairwayDodger]

Well - her first go at 'wealth' distribution - the dementia tax and associated increased starting point for paying social care costs - isn't going that well. I predict a Tory 'walk-back' on the dementia tax today - though it won't be presented by May - as she is strong and stable.

They will probably hope everyone forgets about it....

 

[Old Skier]

They will probably hope everyone forgets about it....

Plenty of time for that. Some other clangers to be dropped by all party's before the day.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Strong and Stable has just done Panic and U Turn.:lol:

Manifesto Of Chaos.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

They will probably hope everyone forgets about it....

Huh - well May has announced that there will be a consultation - and that there will be a cap. So where does she find the money now lost to the exchequer due to the cap.

May - nice and stable and strong - first sign of a push back from the electorate and her MPs and she caves in and a U-turn. So this is just the sort of leader we want when facing the EU in the negotiations.

And so she blames 'fake claims, fear and scaremongering' by Corbyn. That is so sad and pathetic it's almost funny.

And so what is the cap Theresa?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

She is losing the plot now in Wales.

Desperately searching around for a friendly journalist to quickly change the subject.

 

[FairwayDodger]

They will probably hope everyone forgets about it....

Plenty of time for that. Some other clangers to be dropped by all party's before the day.

A sure sign of missing the mark is when you have to point out you were making a joke...

 

[Doon frae Troon]

A sure sign of missing the mark is when you have to point out you were making a joke...

I think 'we' all got it Karen

 

[Doon frae Troon]

.....and we all thought 2016 was a weird year.
Where is this one going to end ?

 

[Old Skier]

Looks like SNP not only adopt Tory austerity measures but resort to slurring the nurse who spoke out against the leader of the SNP.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Woops
Check out the lifestyle of the 'food bank' nurse.

I think she will get a bit more than the five minutes of fame she bargained for.:lol:

https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-pertinent-questions/#comments

 

[ger147]

Looks like SNP not only adopt Tory austerity measures but resort to slurring the nurse who spoke out against the leader of the SNP.

Probably best not to plead poverty and talk about needing foobanks etc. when your Twitter feed has pics of your latest holiday in NY...

 

[FairwayDodger]

Woe betide anyone with the timerity to criticise the snp. The whole snp party machine and associated cybernat trolls turned on her, as they have done with others in the past.

Full scale intrusive investigation, spin and downright lies about her. Just nasty people.

 

[Old Skier]

Probably best not to plead poverty and talk about needing foobanks etc. when your Twitter feed has pics of your latest holiday in NY...

Wings the blog for the gullible.

 

[ger147]

Wings the blog for the gullible.

I didn't see it on Wings, I don't click on anything from that tripe.

It's all over the mainstream press - NY holiday, works for BUPA, daughter at private school etc.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Woe betide anyone with the timerity to criticise the snp. The whole snp party machine and associated cybernat trolls turned on her, as they have done with others in the past.

Full scale intrusive investigation, spin and downright lies about her. Just nasty people.

I think it was The Daily Record that broke the story.

 

[ger147]

I didn't see it on Wings, I don't click on anything from that tripe.

It's all over the mainstream press - NY holiday, works for BUPA, daughter at private school etc.

I have no idea if it's true or not but this is where I saw it...

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/foodbank-nurse-who-put-nicola-10473725

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Woe betide anyone with the timerity to criticise the snp. The whole snp party machine and associated cybernat trolls turned on her, as they have done with others in the past.

Full scale intrusive investigation, spin and downright lies about her. Just nasty people.

Not all of them, maybe some of them..