getting from 14 to 3 will be the easy bit from 3 down is where you will struggle. Took be 5 years to get from 12 to 5 after only taking 3 months from 24 to 12.Got my first official handicap today from Merchants golf course edinburgh... 14.. good starting point... somebody said if my project is serious then i have to be off 3 by the end of this year.... cant see it happening ... maybe 8 or 9... would still be a great achievement.