Fiona Bruce Question Time

[drdel]

let’s get this straight: The audience weren’t jeering the useless woman because she is black, they were jeering her because she is thick.

For, thirty years the stupid cow has been demonstrating the intellectual capacity of five-year-old, but nobody has been able to say anything against her …. just in case she pulls out the old race card.

It’s hilarious up until the point that you remember she is only a couple of random events from being home secretary..... Imagine her and catweazle running the country!😱

I guess her as Chancellor of the Exchequer might be a step too far

 

[Deleted member 1147]

let’s get this straight: The audience weren’t jeering the useless woman because she is black, they were jeering her because she is thick.

For, thirty years the stupid cow has been demonstrating the intellectual capacity of five-year-old, but nobody has been able to say anything against her …. just in case she pulls out the old race card.

It’s hilarious up until the point that you remember she is only a couple of random events from being home secretary..... Imagine her and catweazle running the country!😱

For someone as thick as a 5 year old she’s done bloody well to be an mp for so long.
If only she was brilliant enough to write crap on golf forum like us!

 

[Tashyboy]

For someone as thick as a 5 year old she’s done bloody well to be an mp for so long.
If only she was brilliant enough to write crap on golf forum like us!

If she wrote on a golf forum it would probably have a big fat VW in front of golf 😁

 

[Lord Tyrion]

For someone as thick as a 5 year old she’s done bloody well to be an mp for so long.
If only she was brilliant enough to write crap on golf forum like us!

You don't have to be bright to be an mp, you really don't. You do need to be bright to be a minister, or senior shadow minister, and stay in the role. You get examined every day and if you are not on your game your limitations will get exposed. People may not like John Mcdonell but he is razor sharp and knows his brief. As a balance the same is true of Michael Gove. Splits opinion as a person but undoubtedly knows his stuff.

You can be a great constituency mp and be a terrible minister. Two very different roles.

 

[Fade and Die]

For someone as thick as a 5 year old she’s done bloody well to be an mp for so long.
If only she was brilliant enough to write crap on golf forum like us!

Seriously you think she’s brilliant?....she has been promoted way above her competence level, also she’s probably the biggest racist in parliament.

 

[SocketRocket]

For someone as thick as a 5 year old she’s done bloody well to be an mp for so long.
If only she was brilliant enough to write crap on golf forum like us!

She represents a constituency that would vote in any idiot with a red rosette and they did.
OK, that's a bit unfair to idiots.

 

[backwoodsman]

Oh, I do like a forum...

Whilst she certainly has put in some some incompetent and incomprehensible performances, and even as a life-long labour supporter, I'd be very hard pressed to vote for her if she were my local candidate, she is certainly neither thick, nor an idiot. I'm just surprised that so many on here are such personal acquaintances that they can make such categorical judgements.

 

[Hobbit]

I think TM is out out of step with her own party, and parliament, although maybe its is the best deal she could get. She neither inspires me nor fills me with confidence. However, in her recent parliamentary performances I think she spoken well, even if I disagree with her aims. I also thought JC had one of his better days today.

She could be one of the best parliamentarians at present, though I don't believe she is, but with the remit she has she is always going to get a good kicking.

 

[Deleted member 1147]

Seriously you think she’s brilliant?

Where did I say that?

 

[MegaSteve]

She represents a constituency that would vote in any idiot with a red rosette and they did.
OK, that's a bit unfair to idiots.

Living in a constituency that votes in the idiot wearing the blue rosette I can relate to that...

 

[Fade and Die]

Where did I say that?

Sorry re-reading your post you didn’t.

But just in case anyone has been distracted by her racist claims a few reminders about the woman...

For example, in 1984, Abbot said that Ireland “is our struggle – every defeat of the British state is a victory for all of us. A defeat in Northern Ireland would be a defeat indeed.”

She then went on to say, “Though I was born here in London, I couldn’t identify as British. Anyone who comes from a former colony knows the troops always have to come out.”

Referring to Northern Ireland as an “enclave of white supremacist ideologies,” she spoke against Labour’s then official policy of seeking Unionist consent, asking, “Should we have waited to win the consent of the white racists in Zimbabwe?”

In 2010, on the This Week sofa, Abbot raised eyebrows by stating:
 “West Indian mums will go to the wall for their children.”

She made the remark to explain her hypocritical decision to send her son to a fee-paying school after having previously criticised private sector education.

Andrew Neil responded: “So black mums love their kids more than white mums, do they?”

Eye rolling silence…

Neil then went on to ask: “Suppose Michael [Portillo] said white mums will go to the wall for their children?… Why did you say that, isn’t it a racist remark?”

Apparently she had nothing more to say…

Two further beauties while we’re at it:

“White people love to play divide and rule.”

And

“Finish blue-eyed nurses aren’t suitable to look after Black people.”

I think the fact that she has been elected by such a large margin so many times says more about the mindset of her constituents than of her competence.

 

[MegaSteve]

I think the fact that she has been elected by such a large margin so many times says more about the mindset of her constituents than of her competence.

As she is being returned with increased majorities one must assume her constituents are happy with her competence...

Whereas BoJo's majority plummeted... Can we can assume his constituents are less convinced about his competence?

 

[IanM]

or his policies... You could say that.... but, neither Abbott or Boris are exactly Benny Disraeli, are they?

 

[Don Barzini]

As she is being returned with increased majorities one must assume her constituents are happy with her competence...

One mustn’t assume anything of the sort. Previous surveys carried out suggest that around 75% of people can’t even name their local MP. Most people vote for the party they want in power, regardless of who the individual running for their local seat is.

So I personally wouldn’t make the leap of faith that the people of Hackney North and Stoke Newington are happy with Diane Abbott’s competence. I’d be more inclined to conclude that most of them want to see a Labour government, but around 75% of them couldn’t name her and don’t have much idea of her competence. (Perhaps that figure of 75% is a bit less considering she’s in the shadow cabinet and is reasonably famous/notorious).

And yes, I would apply similar logic to most constituencies and their local MP, regardless of the colour of the rosette.

 

[MegaSteve]

One mustn’t assume anything of the sort. Previous surveys carried out suggest that around 75% of people can’t even name their local MP. Most people vote for the party they want in power, regardless of who the individual running for their local seat is.

So I personally wouldn’t make the leap of faith that the people of Hackney North and Stoke Newington are happy with Diane Abbott’s competence. I’d be more inclined to conclude that most of them want to see a Labour government, but around 75% of them couldn’t name her and don’t have much idea of her competence. (Perhaps that figure of 75% is a bit less considering she’s in the shadow cabinet and is reasonably famous/notorious).

And yes, I would apply similar logic to most constituencies and their local MP, regardless of the colour of the rosette.

I would suggest the vast majority of those that can't name their MP fall into the category of those that can't be asked to vote... And, with Ms Abbott having such a high profile in London politics it would be nigh on impossible for her constituents not to be aware of her..

 

[Hacker Khan]

One mustn’t assume anything of the sort. Previous surveys carried out suggest that around 75% of people can’t even name their local MP. Most people vote for the party they want in power, regardless of who the individual running for their local seat is.

So I personally wouldn’t make the leap of faith that the people of Hackney North and Stoke Newington are happy with Diane Abbott’s competence. I’d be more inclined to conclude that most of them want to see a Labour government, but around 75% of them couldn’t name her and don’t have much idea of her competence. (Perhaps that figure of 75% is a bit less considering she’s in the shadow cabinet and is reasonably famous/notorious).

And yes, I would apply similar logic to most constituencies and their local MP, regardless of the colour of the rosette.

Whilst I agree that previously a lot of people could not name their MP, with the recent wall to wall coverage of politics dominating every newspaper, TV and radio news report then I'd expect there to be much more awareness of local MPs now.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I would suggest the vast majority of those that can't name their MP fall into the category of those that can't be asked to vote... And, with Ms Abbott having such a high profile in London politics it would be nigh on impossible for her constituents not to be aware of her..

With our system it is always a tricky one to analyse, this works for MP's of all persuasions. Do people vote for the MP, the party or the party leader? In reality you vote for the MP but people vote for a range of reasons. There are clowns on all sides and some get in despite who they are, not because of who they are.

 

[SocketRocket]

With our system it is always a tricky one to analyse, this works for MP's of all persuasions. Do people vote for the MP, the party or the party leader? In reality you vote for the MP but people vote for a range of reasons. There are clowns on all sides and some get in despite who they are, not because of who they are.

I would agree with the premise that most people vote for a party rather than the person.

 

[Deleted member 1147]

I would agree with the premise that most people vote for a party rather than the person.

...and/or vote against certain parties. Some will be anyone but Labour, some will be anyone but Conservatives

 

[Deleted member 18645]

We need to get Diane Abbott on this forum for sure. I mean, the first time she posts about people making sure they return a correct score …..