European Super League

[Liverbirdie]

Gerrin!!!!!

 

[Blue in Munich]

They’ve all collectively pulled out, pretty much the same time.

Fair enough, but not how it was being announced on Sky.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Well in Chelsea fans.

 

[MadAdey]

Not read all of the post so sorry if I am repeating someone else.

So happy to see the teams backing out. But is it really the teams that are backing out, or is it they are afraid of the comeback from the fans. Funny how none of them said anything about not wanting to be part of it until the fans got involved. Why would any team want to be part of this? You will need that extra money to have a big enough squad. This ESL would add a minimum of 18 games to the season for teams, so with the EPL that would be 56 games. They would build 2 squads one for EPL and one for the ESL. They would have to because the 1st 18 weeks of the season the gonna be playing 2 games every week. So guess what?????????? fans of teams like West Brom, Fulham etc are not ever going to see the big players coming to their grounds.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Don't let the owners forget this ever

They should be ashamed of themsleves

10 point deduction for each of the teams Involved

Ban from Europe for next season

Any prize money from the premier League this season taken off them and equally divided between the rest of the league

Should stop anyone thinking of doing anything like this again.

 

[RichA]

That would punish the fans and staff, more than the owners. I think they are already talking about reconciliation and healing, seasoned with some serious grovelling.

I'd like to see the Champions League cut to involve actual champions and maybe domestic cup winners, rather than fourth placed teams getting in, but it won't happen.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Whilst I’m glad the ESL is now dead in the water, I wonder how many of the other PL clubs owners would have done exactly the same as the 6 had they been given the chance. I suspect more than their fans want to admit.

 

[BubbaP]

"None of the Spanish and Italian sides have yet released a statement after the six Premier League teams pulled out."

Media in UK/England has understandably been quite inwardly focused. Were there similar protests etc. in Spain & Italy?

 

[Fade and Die]

Don't let the owners forget this ever

They should be ashamed of themsleves

10 point deduction for each of the teams Involved

Ban from Europe for next season

Any prize money from the premier League this season taken off them and equally divided between the rest of the league

Should stop anyone thinking of doing anything like this again.

I will go out on a limb and state now, every one of those clubs will get a better cut of the money from European football going forward. There will be no consequences from what they have done.

 

[Fade and Die]

Whilst I’m glad the ESL is now dead in the water, I wonder how many of the other PL clubs owners would have done exactly the same as the 6 had they been given the chance. I suspect more than their wants want to admit.

100%...I bet when Chelsea pulled out last night Karen Brady was on the phone to Florentino Perez asking if West Ham can take their place!

 

[Deleted member 21784]

I will go out on a limb and state now, every one of those clubs will get a better cut of the money from European football going forward. There will be no consequences from what they have done.

100%

The new champions League reforms are superleague in another form

More games on TV.. more money

More spaces for those elite who don't qualify through the league

Just still don't get how spurs got to the table .. serious good work on their part .. I mean arsenal may be a shambles ATM but they have won the league how many times? Same with United .. Chelsea have won champs league .. Liverpool have .. city won the league few times now

What exactly have spurs done to get it? I'd argue Leicester have done more.. they have actually won the premier League ...

 

[Billysboots]

Don't let the owners forget this ever

They should be ashamed of themsleves

10 point deduction for each of the teams Involved

Ban from Europe for next season

Any prize money from the premier League this season taken off them and equally divided between the rest of the league

Should stop anyone thinking of doing anything like this again.

No, no, no.

It is the collective opposition of fans, players and managers which has brought this proposal crashing down. By docking clubs points and handing out bans you punish the very people who have saved the day - how is that fair?

It’s the owners who need punishing. There needs to be an urgent review of club ownership rules in this country to prevent the likes of the Glazer family owning football clubs.

 

[Fade and Die]

No, no, no.

It is the collective opposition of fans, players and managers which has brought this proposal crashing down. By docking clubs points and handing out bans you punish the very people who have saved the day - how is that fair?

It’s the owners who need punishing. There needs to be an urgent review of club ownership rules in this country to prevent the likes of the Glazer family owning football clubs.

Football won. For now. But the unbridled greed of these owners has no limit. It's no surprise that the two clubs who weren't in it for the money were the first to crack.

Legislation HAS to be brought in to ensure this never happens again. I'm sure there are enough creative ideas in The FA and Downing Street to make it so.

 

[BubbaP]

100%
.....
Just still don't get how spurs got to the table .. serious good work on their part .. I mean arsenal may be a shambles ATM but they have won the league how many times? Same with United .. Chelsea have won champs league .. Liverpool have .. city won the league few times now

What exactly have spurs done to get it? I'd argue Leicester have done more.. they have actually won the premier League ...

Surely it wasn't about what they'd "done" in terms of winning...
http://www.tottenhamblog.com/2021/03/28/how-spurs-became-big-in-asia/

 

[Blue in Munich]

Well in Chelsea fans.

As pleasing as it is that we are now apparently out, it is far more disappointing that we were ever involved in the first place.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Football won. For now. But the unbridled greed of these owners has no limit. It's no surprise that the two clubs who weren't in it for the money were the first to crack.

Legislation HAS to be brought in to ensure this never happens again. I'm sure there are enough creative ideas in The FA and Downing Street to make it so.

How many clubs fans have in the past protested about a chairman/owner of a club not “investing” in the club to bring in more players so the fans can hopefully get success?
Fans demand success and more players brought in usually on ever growing contracts. Let’s not kid ourselves that our demands for the clubs success hasn’t had any contributory factor in all of this.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

No, no, no.

It is the collective opposition of fans, players and managers which has brought this proposal crashing down. By docking clubs points and handing out bans you punish the very people who have saved the day - how is that fair?

It’s the owners who need punishing. There needs to be an urgent review of club ownership rules in this country to prevent the likes of the Glazer family owning football clubs.

By letting them get away with it leaves them open to try again

Make an example of them

 

[need_my_wedge]

No, no, no.

It is the collective opposition of fans, players and managers which has brought this proposal crashing down. By docking clubs points and handing out bans you punish the very people who have saved the day - how is that fair?

It’s the owners who need punishing. There needs to be an urgent review of club ownership rules in this country to prevent the likes of the Glazer family owning football clubs.

This really.

I understand how any of the teams, if invited, would accept the "opportunity". If you are offered the chance to be part of it and get that sort of income guaranteed, in today's world of football, it would be financial suicide to reject the offer. I think this was all about creating a European version of Major League Soccer, which is just not how we play. The whole point of the league system is that there is always something to play for, winning has rewards, and losing has consequences. If that is taken away, whilst still guaranteeing money far greater than you would receive in the current setup it destroys the whole fabric of competition. I think the whole thing was dreamed up by the owners, I would be surprised if any of the players or managers had any say in it at all, let alone agreed to it. Punishing the teams by docking points or bans, you are effectively punishing the players, and fans, who had no say. Somehow, the owners need punishing in a way that doesn't effect the players, managers and fans. Not sure how that can be done, perhaps there is a way they can be ejected from their positions as owners?

 

[Deleted member 21784]

This really.

I understand how any of the teams, if invited, would accept the "opportunity". If you are offered the chance to be part of it and get that sort of income guaranteed, in today's world of football, it would be financial suicide to reject the offer. I think this was all about creating a European version of Major League Soccer, which is just not how we play. The whole point of the league system is that there is always something to play for, winning has rewards, and losing has consequences. If that is taken away, whilst still guaranteeing money far greater than you would receive in the current setup it destroys the whole fabric of competition. I think the whole thing was dreamed up by the owners, I would be surprised if any of the players or managers had any say in it at all, let alone agreed to it. Punishing the teams by docking points or bans, you are effectively punishing the players, and fans, who had no say. Somehow, the owners need punishing in a way that doesn't effect the players, managers and fans. Not sure how that can be done, perhaps there is a way they can be ejected from their positions as owners?

But when a team goes into administration...it's a points deduction

When they break ffp.. it's a transfer ban

When they break transfer rules it's a transfer ban

Any of them the fans fault? Yet they are punished ...


They should be punished greatly for agreeing to it. Pure greed. Motivation by only money

Disgusting behaviour and their needs to be examples set

 

[Deleted member 21784]

No, no, no.

It is the collective opposition of fans, players and managers which has brought this proposal crashing down. By docking clubs points and handing out bans you punish the very people who have saved the day - how is that fair?

It’s the owners who need punishing. There needs to be an urgent review of club ownership rules in this country to prevent the likes of the Glazer family owning football clubs.

Very naive also to think it's "saved" anything

They have snuck in the champions League reform which is the super League in another form
..

Smoke and mirrors