European Ryder Cup Team

[Slab]

Wouldn't it be fair to say that if RC qualification was achieved that the day job has been doing OK and you'd probably be in the FedEx/RTD anyway..?
With Majors and WGCs there were only another 5 events to play in a year's worth of qualification. Scottish, PGA and the Desert swing and you've done it. Plenty of opportunity to progress in the FedEx....
The fact that DC asked Knox to play at the Wyndham must have signalled there would be a battle for the last place.
He didn't play and therefore showed his preference to play FedEx to the RC.

Yeah but who manages their career that way round, i.e aim to secure a week working for free and by default it means my paying job must be doing well

It'll always be, perform well at my paying job and it'll secure an invite to take on the free weeks work that i really want to do too

He had the schedule to do it but didn't score enough points to complete the double


As a quirk he's won the same money as Fitzpatrick in ET sanctioned events this season but taken 10 events less to do it

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Knox clearly has the same attitude as your average American golfer - money and the FedEx Cup take the priority - Knox has had plenty of chances to qualify by right but that article shows how arrogant he was towards it all

For me he wouldn't have fit in with the rest of the team

 

[HankMarvin]

Knox clearly has the same attitude as your average American golfer - money and the FedEx Cup take the priority - Knox has had plenty of chances to qualify by right but that article shows how arrogant he was towards it all

For me he wouldn't have fit in with the rest of the team

Your are full of trash what do you know about Knox, really ?

What about Westwood did he play last week I am sure a win last week would have seen him in on merit but his game is that bad he didn't bother, so he had chances to earn a spot but he didn't.

 

[Papas1982]

Westwood was always going to be picked.

I dodnt realise list that this was his third time picked. He's always done well so hope it continues, but was surprised that 30% of his appearances he wasn't good enough to qualify.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Your are full of trash what do you know about Knox, really ?

What about Westwood did he play last week I am sure a win last week would have seen him in on merit but his game is that bad he didn't bother, so he had chances to earn a spot but he didn't.

But then Westwood has been a member of the European Tour for 2 decades and shown his commitment for all those years to the tour and the RC - as opposed to the cash cow that is the Fed Ex

If Knox really wanted to be a part of the RC he could have joined the ET a long time ago

This article shows for me that Europe are better off without him

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/golf/37222764

 

[Slab]

Knox clearly has the same attitude as your average American golfer - money and the FedEx Cup take the priority - Knox has had plenty of chances to qualify by right but that article shows how arrogant he was towards it all

For me he wouldn't have fit in with the rest of the team

:rofl:

Better bait required I think

 

[njrose51]

Is there is a question over DC's management skills? Can he motivate the team, the individual? Can he be strategic enough to pick the right pairings and the right order when it comes to the singles? Can he be strong enough to make hard decisions and perhaps send out a player out knowing they will be slaughtered? Yes he has passion. Yes he has experience of RCs, and winning a major, as do his VCs with regards to RC experience, passion etc.

My argument is that perhaps the European team is weaker on paper, but on the day anyone can beat anyone.

The atmosphere will be electric, hostile and patriotic and for me, its how the team copes with that, especially the rookies, that will make the difference.

The American players will be so fired up - they will not want to loose on home ground, they will not want to loose an unprecedented 4th time in a row and after the arguments of last time, they will have a massive point to prove. Also, Love is now asking the players for their advice on his wildcards - basically saying help me form the best possible team whether in the changing rooms or on the course.

this will be a very interesting few days!

 

[Hacker Khan]

Your are full of trash what do you know about Knox, really ?

What about Westwood did he play last week I am sure a win last week would have seen him in on merit but his game is that bad he didn't bother, so he had chances to earn a spot but he didn't.

He already knew he was in the team so you could argue that it would have been worse for him to play and not do very well.

 

[HankMarvin]

But then Westwood has been a member of the European Tour for 2 decades and shown his commitment for all those years to the tour and the RC - as opposed to the cash cow that is the Fed Ex

If Knox really wanted to be a part of the RC he could have joined the ET a long time ago

This article shows for me that Europe are better off without him

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/golf/37222764

Westwood had every chance too if not more than Knox plus Knox is playing a lot better than him & don't talk about commitment & Westwood in the same sentence as I am sure his family would have something to say about that.

 

[Slab]

He already knew he was in the team so you could argue that it would have been worse for him to play and not do very well.

Could also be said if he played and qualified then Clarke wouldn't have had to 'use up' a captains pick on him

 

[Normal]

Could also be said if he played and qualified then Clarke wouldn't have had to 'use up' a captains pick on him

Just read an interesting analysis about the Pieters vs Knox pick. Part of the decision picking Pieters could be based on statistics, not ranking or money.
While Knox is excelling in playing 'bogey free' rounds (an underrated aspect in scoring), Pieters excels in birdie-per-round golf.
Pieters offensive game would suit better in Match Play, esp.in the 4 balls.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Westwood had every chance too if not more than Knox plus Knox is playing a lot better than him & don't talk about commitment & Westwood in the same sentence as I am sure his family would have something to say about that.

Westwoods personal life has zero relevance to anything to do with his golf or the RC

Westwood was always going to be given a pick - the choice wasn't Westwood vs Knox it was Pieters vs Knox

Pieters went out and showed DC what he could do and showed that he wanted to be in the team - Knox didn't and decided to rest himself for the Fed Ex because that's where his priorities are it seems

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Could also be said if he played and qualified then Clarke wouldn't have had to 'use up' a captains pick on him

Played when ?

Wasn't the automatic places already sorted before Denmark ? And it was all about impressing the captain for a pick - Pieters impressed at Denmark - Knox didn't bother playing

 

[Slab]

Just read an interesting analysis about the Pieters vs Knox pick. Part of the decision picking Pieters could be based on statistics, not ranking or money.
While Knox is excelling in playing 'bogey free' rounds (an underrated aspect in scoring), Pieters excels in birdie-per-round golf.
Pieters offensive game would suit better in Match Play, esp.in the 4 balls.

I think between the two Pieters just edges it for me too over Knox but its very marginal (& everyone could have done better in their qualification attempt) but just a different way of looking at it, had Westwood played into the team as an automatic it creates different options like picking Kaymer Pieters and Knox while dropping Fitzpatrick (if he wanted to) safe in the knowledge he wasn't in reality only going to have 2 captains picks as 1 was allocated

 

[HankMarvin]

Westwoods personal life has zero relevance to anything to do with his golf or the RC

Westwood was always going to be given a pick - the choice wasn't Westwood vs Knox it was Pieters vs Knox

Pieters went out and showed DC what he could do and showed that he wanted to be in the team - Knox didn't and decided to rest himself for the Fed Ex because that's where his priorities are it seems

Do you mean Westwood would rather spend the weekend (last weekend) with his young girlfriend rather than prove he was a good pick, please don't make out Knox has not shown any commitment when Westwood has shown no commitment to earn a spot or even has the game to be playing in the RC, this will be his last one so at least that's a good thing going forward.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Do you mean Westwood would rather spend the weekend (last weekend) with his young girlfriend rather than prove he was a good pick, please don't make out Knox has not shown any commitment when Westwood has shown no commitment to earn a spot or even has the game to be playing in the RC, this will be his last one so at least that's a good thing going forward.

What Westwood does in his private life is irrelevant and someone going on about just smacks of bitterness and prob jealously

Westwood has shown over two decades of commitment to the European Tour and European Ryder Cup team - Knox hasn't. Westwood has proved himself time and time again ( maybe it's because he is English and Knox is "sort off Scottish" which is creating the resentment )

And again the choice wasn't between Knox and Westwood

 

[HankMarvin]

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What Westwood does in his private life is irrelevant and someone going on about just smacks of bitterness and prob jealously

Westwood has shown over two decades of commitment to the European Tour and European Ryder Cup team - Knox hasn't. Westwood has proved himself time and time again ( maybe it's because he is English and Knox is "sort off Scottish" which is creating the resentment )

And again the choice wasn't between Knox and Westwood

You don't half talk tosh Pill is that the best you have pulling the English Scottish card, poor but its what I would expect from you. I have no issues with Westwood being English my point is Knox is playing better than Westwood and the rankings prove that, going on stats Westwood is the worst player in the team and will be the worst player from either team.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

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You don't half talk tosh Pill is that the beat you have pulling the English Scottish card, poor but its what I would expect from you. I have no issues with Westwood being English my point is Knox is playing better than Westwood and the rankings prove that, going on stats Westwood is the worst player in the team and will be the worst player from either team.

Since when have stats/world rankings ever mattered when it comes to the RC ?

Knox "stats" are based on 4 rounds of stroke play

It all goes out the window when it comes to the RC and matchplay - RC after RC players ranked lower in the WR perform during the RC ,

I believe Westwood is ranked better than Kaymer right now so why not use Kaymer in your comparison ? So does that make Kaymer the worst ? Or maybe Fitzpatrick who is also ranked lower than Westwood ?

The pick was between Pieters and Knox and the European Captain made his choice based on the RC not World Rankings

 

[Raesy92]

I can't believe there is even an argument that Westwood is in the RC team. His record speaks for itself and he has shown up in the majors this year.

If there weren't as many as 5 rookies already in the team then DC might have more of a choice to make but Westwoods experience counts more than form.

 

[HankMarvin]

Since when have stats/world rankings ever mattered when it comes to the RC ?

Knox "stats" are based on 4 rounds of stroke play

It all goes out the window when it comes to the RC and matchplay - RC after RC players ranked lower in the WR perform during the RC ,

I believe Westwood is ranked better than Kaymer right now so why not use Kaymer in your comparison ? So does that make Kaymer the worst ? Or maybe Fitzpatrick who is also ranked lower than Westwood ?

The pick was between Pieters and Knox and the European Captain made his choice based on the RC not World Rankings

More tosh.

Fitzpatrick Kaymer Westwood, no matter what way you dress it both Kaymer & Fitzpatrick are in better form than Westwood, Fitzpatick is there on his own merit & Kaymer is a solid pick where on the other hand Westwood is a friend of Darren and its the only reason he is in the team.