Raesy92
Assistant Pro
Yes the only reason Westwood is in the team is because he is pals with Darren ...
European Ryder Cup Team
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Yes the only reason Westwood is in the team is because he is pals with Darren ...
PhilTheFragger
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Hank & LP
Agree to disagree please
Please dont rubbish others opinions, they are just different to yours
Agree to disagree please
Please dont rubbish others opinions, they are just different to yours
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
Can only guess but I think Knox (mistakenly with hindsight) believed he'd done enough without adding another PGA event considering the wins and money (performances) he'd already won this season (maybe he even believed that only a Pieters win in Denmark could deny him but turns out that's exactly what happened)
Yes and if Knoxx had played and played poorly that would def have counted against him, so i can see why he didn't play.
Hickory_Hacker
Q-School Graduate
Exactly, Westwood was in months ago and when he wasn't announced as a VC then he had to be playing!
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Believe Clarke asked Knox to play but he said no he was going to stick with his schedule as the Fed Ex because that was equal priority for him this season - that for me speaks volumes
And you are right Knox seemed to believe he was getting a pick but if the RC Capt asks you to play it's sort of suggesting something
Hickory_Hacker
Q-School Graduate
C'mon Phil, when someone is on talking cr@p every day/week you need to let others have their say.
Plus your 8 games behind so get yourself down to the range, I'll look after this place whilst you're away :rofl:
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
Yeah I get Clarke is Captain etc etc and if he asks a rookie to jump he's supposed to say how high, (I haven't seen it reported if he asked Westwood to jump) so what was he really going to learn about Knox he didn't already know?
That his season winnings are 6million instead of 5, that he can play on a course stateside (despite being top 10 in fedex)
Clarke probably did have something specific he wanted to see in Knox and it seems incredible to think it but might there be a little bit power hungry that goes with the RC captains position, a kind of stamp your authority and maybe Clarke might just have wanted to see how well Knox took 'instruction' from the captain. I.e how much of a team player is he likely to be and it could be margins that small that swing the RC pick choiceometer for a rookie
I can see both sides but if my boss asked me to do something outwith working hours that I routinely do well anyway for no other reason than to see if I'm a team player that week, I might be a bit miffed
USER1999
Grand Slam Winner
Knox should be grateful, at least he won't be part of a team that gets gubbed.
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I'm not sure why when ever something is questioned about Knox the response has to involve Westwood
Clarke had no doubt seen that Pieters was hitting some form and was forcing himself into the reckoning - so he knew Pieters was playing Denmark and wanted to see Knox also show the same form and desire
No doubt he wanted to see how committed he was to the RC and how much of a priority it was for him - I think by saving himself for the Fed Ex he showed that's where his priority was right now
Same happened in 2010 - Ed Molinari showed his hand and desire whilst Casey didn't and Molinari got the pick
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I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that if Pieters had won both the Czech & Denmark he would have automatically qualified - instead he managed a 2nd and 1st
HankMarvin
Tour Rookie
Because Westwood is the weakest link in the team & has done nothing to prove he is an asset as a player, maybe he would be better as a VC.
Rather than question Knox why not try to convince us of why Westwood should be playing given his poor form and not to mention his last 3 RC have been as a wild card, surely form is what the team needs. Please don't say he has the experience of prev RC as that doesn't wash because like Westwood said himself yesterday he has every faith in the 6 rookies so why does he need to play?
I guess he has to say this given he is in no position to slate any of them as they have all earned the right to play unlike him.
hovis
Tour Winner
Westwood is gash and full of himself. i hope the Americans at least lube up the European team before their ass shafting
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
Might have been an idea to pull Pieters out of Denmark and take Kaymer, Pieters, Knox and Westwood and he makes a 4-ball for a weekend of matchplay then, rather than ask Knox to do one more time the thing he has routinely done all season
If Knox knocks back an invite like that then itwould speak volumes
As a p.s I still think Pieters should be in the team (Fitzpatrick is the weakest link, but nowt to be done about that)
Norrin Radd
Tour Winner
all this talk about who did or didnt desrve a pick is totally irrelavent now as the captain has made his choice and that is basically that .
all the pooh poohing of Westwood not being worth his spot is just hot air being spouted by people who didnt get their idea of who should be in the team .
well tough luck chaps you werent the rc captain and Darren is so instead of rubbishing his picks ,and to some extent some of you have rubbished the team ,how about getting behind what we have and supporting them rather than arguing about who should and shouldnt be there.
and as a footnote ,do you think that those playing wont be trying their best to win again for europe .
its a bloody disease that this country has in bashing our home team whatever the sport .lets give it a rest a minute or two and get behind them .
you can moan all you like IF we get beat and thump your chests saying i told you so .but and its a big BUT it hasnt happened yet and i for one hope it dosent.
C`MON EUROPE.
all the pooh poohing of Westwood not being worth his spot is just hot air being spouted by people who didnt get their idea of who should be in the team .
well tough luck chaps you werent the rc captain and Darren is so instead of rubbishing his picks ,and to some extent some of you have rubbished the team ,how about getting behind what we have and supporting them rather than arguing about who should and shouldnt be there.
and as a footnote ,do you think that those playing wont be trying their best to win again for europe .
its a bloody disease that this country has in bashing our home team whatever the sport .lets give it a rest a minute or two and get behind them .
you can moan all you like IF we get beat and thump your chests saying i told you so .but and its a big BUT it hasnt happened yet and i for one hope it dosent.
C`MON EUROPE.
TheJezster
Tour Rookie
Well said Norrin!
All this nonsense about Westowood not being commited or worth a pick is so stupid it's laughable!
Of course he's worth a pick! He'll settle the team down nicely and I should imagine come in with a fair number of points too. He might not play all 5 sessions, but i'll bet he wins more than he loses.
He's a big name for the Americans to face, especially as they dont know how to win in recent history.
As you said, C'MON EUROPE!
All this nonsense about Westowood not being commited or worth a pick is so stupid it's laughable!
Of course he's worth a pick! He'll settle the team down nicely and I should imagine come in with a fair number of points too. He might not play all 5 sessions, but i'll bet he wins more than he loses.
He's a big name for the Americans to face, especially as they dont know how to win in recent history.
As you said, C'MON EUROPE!
Region3
Ryder Cup Winner
I thought I read somewhere that Clarke asked Knox to play in the Wyndham because a half decent performance would have him qualify automatically from the world points list.
Hickory_Hacker
Q-School Graduate
Yep, he knows that this is his last game. There are a few others that wouldn't take this 'pat on the bum' pick but he's greedy, washed up.
It would be good to see a couple of them pull out but they're also greedy, that wee backhander counts!
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Certainly I will be cheering for Europe but I am afraid you are kidding yourself if you think any of the American team would be concerned over facing the 2016 version of Lee Westwood.
Their players will see him as being past his best although still capable of the odd good round i.e. much the same as many others.
bluewolf
Money List Winner
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Hmmm, not quite sure what it is about Westy that seems to inspire such bilge from certain sections of this forum.. Let me think about it.. I'm sure it'll come to me if I really concentrate...
Hmmm, not quite sure what it is about Westy that seems to inspire such bilge from certain sections of this forum.. Let me think about it.. I'm sure it'll come to me if I really concentrate...
