EU Referendum

SwingsitlikeHogan said:
OK - so all the commentators and politicians asking Bojo, Give and Farage - where's the plan? are wrong. We now don't even know quite what their objectives are as they are gradually and not insignificantly changing.
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:confused: Did you read my post, I dont know how to put it any simpler to you. As I said, there are a number of outline principles that are desired, the outcomes of the exit talks with the EU will see what we can achieve in Europe. Others will be under our own control but as you know there will be at least a two year time frame for this to happen.

All the commentators and politicians are not saying what you suggest, only the ones you want to listen to. Panic if you will, this Socket is not for panicking.
 
fundy said:
Is Farage for real. Has a pop at everyone else in the room then asks them to behave sensibly lol, that speech really wont have done us any favours
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Love or hate him Farage is a brilliant public speaker and I'd rather have him in our corner speaking up for Britain than not.

You're right though its not the way to win friends and I don't like to see personal insults thrown around there's no need for any of that.

It must be a lonely place speaking up for Britain when most in the room are dead against what you are saying. Maybe if Cameron was a bit more "in your face" then who knows he may have gotten more joy out of the EU than he did and we would still be in the EU now but on much better terms.
 
sawtooth said:
Love or hate him Farage is a brilliant public speaker and I'd rather have him in our corner speaking up for Britain than not.

You're right though its not the way to win friends and I don't like to see personal insults thrown around there's no need for any of that.

It must be a lonely place speaking up for Britain when most in the room are dead against what you are saying. Maybe if Cameron was a bit more "in your face" then who knows he may have gotten more joy out of the EU than he did and we would still be in the EU now but on much better terms.
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To quote Chris Addison on Twitter, is as statesmanlike as a drunk Rotary Club chairman on a men only dinner. Here's an alternative view.

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...el-farage-european-parliament-petty-rant-ukip
 
Some people may find this very funny, usual suspects won't. But worth it just to hear David Tennant reading out some of the tweets sent to Trump regarding his Brexit comments at around 5:24. But warning, warning, some rude words in this video, not safe for blaring out at work or in front of any impressionable people.

[video=youtube_share;0nTrs-HuuUc]https://youtu.be/0nTrs-HuuUc[/video]
 
Hacker Khan said:
Some people may find this very funny, usual suspects won't. But worth it just to hear David Tennant reading out some of the tweets sent to Trump regarding his Brexit comments at around 5:24. But warning, warning, some rude words in this video, not safe for blaring out at work or in front of any impressionable people.

[video=youtube_share;0nTrs-HuuUc]https://youtu.be/0nTrs-HuuUc[/video]
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Marvellous, thanks HK ;)
 
Nearly every Scottish newspaper headlines Juncker refusing to meet Sturgeon. [disaster/crisis etc etc usual SNP bad stuff]

Yesterday Juncker had a full diary and could not fit in the first Minister.

Today Junker arranges meeting with Nicola at 5.pm. She is also meeting with Schulz and Verhofstadt
Is it the Nigel effect.
I am starting to warm to Mr Juncker.
 
TheDiablo said:
No we won't. With the devaluation of the currency back to 1985 levels and the worst drop in FTSE in ages we have lost more money in total than we have ever put into the EU cumulatively.

We now have far less to spend, and if we fall into recession unemployment rises, then tax revenues fall whilst welfare expenditure rises, leading to more cuts.
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LOL. Scaremongering at it's highest level. do you know what it was two weeks ago? No you don't....BUT I DO. i'm going to the USA in September and am watching the value like a hawk. TWO WEEKS AGO IT WAS WHERE IT IS NOW !!!!!!!!!!!

LOL. Remain???? You've been lie lie and more lies. All the top end polititans have had to resign because they didn't listen to the people. I hope Jeza holds on. He really didn't want to Remain but was made to say so by his party. How many labour voters voted out????? MILLIONS. Just how in touch with their vote are they????? At least the Tories didn't dictate to their members what to vote for. Corbin was voted in by the members...the man/woman in the street by as huge majority. He will get in again. He maybe the solution????? I can't believe I've said that. :eek:
 
How many other countries would dare to have their own in/out referendum now? The Germans would vote dumpy out immediately. They could then shake off their attempted humility and crack on with being German.
 
Crazyface said:
LOL. Scaremongering at it's highest level. do you know what it was two weeks ago? No you don't....BUT I DO. i'm going to the USA in September and am watching the value like a hawk. TWO WEEKS AGO IT WAS WHERE IT IS NOW !!!!!!!!!!!

LOL. Remain???? You've been lie lie and more lies. All the top end polititans have had to resign because they didn't listen to the people. I hope Jeza holds on. He really didn't want to Remain but was made to say so by his party. How many labour voters voted out????? MILLIONS. Just how in touch with their vote are they????? At least the Tories didn't dictate to their members what to vote for. Corbin was voted in by the members...the man/woman in the street by as huge majority. He will get in again. He maybe the solution????? I can't believe I've said that. :eek:
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I am also going to the USA in September and changed my money about a month ago and have been watching the rate since and can tell you with no degree of uncertainty that the dollar was not the same two weeks ago as it is now. It is about 10% worse off. I voted out and believe we are better out, but to claim that is frankly ridiculous.
 
Crazyface said:
We now need a very big man or woman (Nicky Morgan? as long as she drops this give the vote to 16 yo) to step up.
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And the reason why 16 years olds who have a massive stake in the future of the country shouldn't be allowed to vote is...........

And fair warning, if you stereotype them all as feckless hoodie wearing slackers I will stereotype all people over 65 as racist right wing UKIPers.
 
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JakeWS said:
I am also going to the USA in September and changed my money about a month ago and have been watching the rate since and can tell you with no degree of uncertainty that the dollar was not the same two weeks ago as it is now. It is about 10% worse off. I voted out and believe we are better out, but to claim that is frankly ridiculous.
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yeh i watch the dollar rate daily due to work. a week ago it was circa 1.48, this morning it has recovered to 1.34 (went as low as 1.31)
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Nearly every Scottish newspaper headlines Juncker refusing to meet Sturgeon. [disaster/crisis etc etc usual SNP bad stuff]

Yesterday Juncker had a full diary and could not fit in the first Minister.

Today Junker arranges meeting with Nicola at 5.pm. She is also meeting with Schulz and Verhofstadt
Is it the Nigel effect.
I am starting to warm to Mr Juncker.
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And she'll no doubt come back with her tail between her legs after being told to Foxtrot Oscar.
 
Val said:
And she'll no doubt come back with her tail between her legs after being told to Foxtrot Oscar.
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No, any negative will be spun to be positive, SNP are good at that. As for Junker he will big her up to slight the UK govt and use as a sign to other member states that leaving is bad. Neither party would go into the meeting unless there was something to be gained for both imo.
 
Hacker Khan said:
https://www.virgin.com/richard-branson/young-vote
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Everyone is banging on about the 73% of young people voting remain, however they also fail to mention the 36% turnout. It's hardly the majority of young people who are being victimised like they make out. Being 21, I see the young moaners first hand, and they seem to me to be following the remain trend as it is "Cool" at the minute.
 
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