EU Referendum

The largest importer of wine in the UK does not buy any from the EU.

Some facts please....Who are you referring to?!

Otherwise calling B/S on this!!

Ha! Realised who this 'importer' was as I disposed of the bottle of one of their fine products (Kumala Reserve Malbec) - that I'd actually been imbibing at the time of my original post!

The Aussie based/owned company Accolade (Headquarters South Oz), that has a UK 'Head Office' - and past which I often travel! So not so much an importer to UK as an exporter from Aus and its many other holdings - to UK, Europe and many other countries!

So they really only 'buy' from a single supplier - themselves!

I can see definite 'politician' potential from the comment! :whistle:
 
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Wow what an advert for the UK Farage is - I'm embaressed to have that disgusting person talk on our behalf as a MEP. Nasty racist streak right through him - please tell me that he becomes a non entity soon

Remember kids, Farage is how a lot of Europeans see us now. As as much as our popular press thrives on taking at times extreme caricatures of a nations character or people and exaggerating them for comedic or sinister effect, as one of the main players in the biggest political story in ages, you can bet your bottom dollar the press in Europe is doing the same to us.
 
Remember kids, Farage is how a lot of Europeans see us now. As as much as our popular press thrives on taking at times extreme caricatures of a nations character or people and exaggerating them for comedic or sinister effect, as one of the main players in the biggest political story in ages, you can bet your bottom dollar the press in Europe is doing the same to us.

It was amusing to note that Juncker and Farage have adjacent seats in the EU Parliament!
 
Remember kids, Farage is how a lot of Europeans see us now. As as much as our popular press thrives on taking at times extreme caricatures of a nations character or people and exaggerating them for comedic or sinister effect, as one of the main players in the biggest political story in ages, you can bet your bottom dollar the press in Europe is doing the same to us.

Does Farage feature in the continental press?
Thought BoJo was the headline grabber...
 
Remember kids, Farage is how a lot of Europeans see us now. As as much as our popular press thrives on taking at times extreme caricatures of a nations character or people and exaggerating them for comedic or sinister effect, as one of the main players in the biggest political story in ages, you can bet your bottom dollar the press in Europe is doing the same to us.

Our press may well portray our European cousins a particular way, e.g. a beret wearing onion seller, but 99% of people understand its a caricature. I would expect our European friends to be equally discerning. To suggest otherwise insults their intelligence.
 
Our press may well portray our European cousins a particular way, e.g. a beret wearing onion seller, but 99% of people understand its a caricature. I would expect our European friends to be equally discerning. To suggest otherwise insults their intelligence.

Come on now, don't spoil his fun, he has a cracking sense of humour and the trick is trying to guess when he's using it. A clue though is that he always uses it in posts anyone disagrees with.
 
A few days old but very well put.

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Torys leaderless and split into four.
Labour leaderless and split in two.
Lib Dems.....more Lords members than MP's
Scotland wishing to leave the UK
UKIP..... ONE MP

Is it not about time the Queen stepped in ?
 
Not being wise after the event as I did ask many times of Leave 'where is your plan'. And it came to pass that there never was one as they never expected to win.

Loving (no I'm not - actually I am despairing rather of) the revisionism we are hearing from Leave front men. And so yesterday evening it was the turn of Daniel Hannan who tells us that if supporters of Leave ever thought that a reduction in immigration numbers was being offered, then they just weren't listening. Problem is Daniel, that even if what you say was true - when you heard Leavers say that that was what they were expecting - you did nothing to correct that idea - you just let them believe it.
 
As this thread is still trundling along, a hypothetical question:

Second referendum, worded differently

1, stay on the exit path
2, join EU full on, into the Eurozone (EMU / ERM II)

How might that pan out?
 
As this thread is still trundling along, a hypothetical question:

Second referendum, worded differently

1, stay on the exit path
2, join EU full on, into the Eurozone (EMU / ERM II)

How might that pan out?
not sure I like the Bank of England not in control - but the problem is this if we don't leave there will always be " we won the referendum, it's our democratic right" , so perhaps we should ask the EU to pretend we have left and live as a left country for a couple of years... Bit like sex change surgery!
 
Not being wise after the event as I did ask many times of Leave 'where is your plan'. And it came to pass that there never was one as they never expected to win.

Loving (no I'm not - actually I am despairing rather of) the revisionism we are hearing from Leave front men. And so yesterday evening it was the turn of Daniel Hannan who tells us that if supporters of Leave ever thought that a reduction in immigration numbers was being offered, then they just weren't listening. Problem is Daniel, that even if what you say was true - when you heard Leavers say that that was what they were expecting - you did nothing to correct that idea - you just let them believe it.

The Plan was to get a majority vote to leave the EU. Done. After that it's a matter of negotiations with the EU on how we work with them after we leave, what the hell did you expect a plan to be? remain didn't need any plan as they held the status quo, Brexit made it quite clear they want to end the Supremely of EU Law over UK Law, they want control over immigration, they want to have the ability to set up their own free trade agreements around the World, They want us to vote in our Law makers and not have them appointed. I could go on but you would have to be pretty stupid to not understand the requirements as they have been made clear enough. You also must be clever enough to understand that the Brexiteers couldn't start negotiations before the referendum, if not then you should have voted Leave as we are told most voters for that are stupid and incapable of understanding the issues.
 
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