EU Referendum

[SocketRocket]

Me and HID getting out to vote, we did hang our depleted IQ's on the coat hangers when we went in the Polling Station though. And you think us OAPs are stupid!


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[Deleted member 15344]

Hic !

Excellent insightful post :thup:

 

[SocketRocket]

Excellent insightful post :thup:

Im pleased you agree. Hope your feeling better :rofl:

 

[vkurup]

So Carney says more quant easing likely in summer, GBP goes down, interest rates likely to be cut to boost consumption. Result - mortgage rates likely to go down which will help the young; saving rates go down so Savers (mostly old) will be hit. Funny the comeuppance for age based demographic ..

 

[SocketRocket]

So Carney says more quant easing likely in summer, GBP goes down, interest rates likely to be cut to boost consumption. Result - mortgage rates likely to go down which will help the young; saving rates go down so Savers (mostly old) will be hit. Funny the comeuppance for age based demographic ..

You are a disgusting Xenophobic Ageist and you should be ashamed of yourself. Your vilifying of a section of the population that is creating divisions and hatred is on a par with the racist idiots calling out insults on foreigners.

 

[Hacker Khan]

You are a disgusting Xenophobic Ageist and you should be ashamed of yourself. Your vilifying of a section of the population that is creating divisions and hatred is on a par with the racist idiots calling out insults on foreigners.

Xenophobic??

And all he is doing is pointing out yet another unfortunate consequence that this may have on the people that (on average) voted for it.

You could argue on the other side of the coin that if the interest rates go down and house prices go down as many predict, then houses become more affordable for the younger generation. So the youngsters can thank the coffin dodgers, sorry, wise old generations for that one. Every cloud and all that

 

[vkurup]

You are a disgusting Xenophobic Ageist and you should be ashamed of yourself. Your vilifying of a section of the population that is creating divisions and hatred is on a par with the racist idiots calling out insults on foreigners.

I am not sure how you reached that conclusion from a news story. I won't dignify it with a response...

PS: sent to mods

 

[Fish]

I am not sure how you reached that conclusion from a news story. I won't dignify it with a response...

PS: sent to mods

:rofl:Speaks volumes, likes to dish it out when it suits (not the last particular reply but many others) then runs to the teachers when something you don't like comes back.........

 

[Deleted member 15344]

So it's now hitting the point of petty name calling and accusations- at least it's mirroring what's happening everywhere else - and people don't think the country is in a mess ?

 

[vkurup]

:rofl:Speaks volumes, likes to dish it out when it suits (not the last particular reply but many others) then runs to the teachers when something you don't like comes back.........

I don't recall any of my posts showering half baked personal insults on anyone. On this thread, I have talked about Leave in general while resisiting any temptation to do otherwise..

 

[sawtooth]

Pointing out yet another unfortunate consequence that Brexit will have for the people that voted for it?

Why? What is the point?

Endless posts that basically says "good, I told you it would happen" isn't very productive and it certainly won't change things.

Surely It's much healthier to look forward, embrace change and highlight positives. Moping, dwelling on the past, picking out negative tweets , news stories etc cannot change anything and isnt good for you and the people around you.

Cheer up , spend less time on here and move on.

 

[BubbaP]

So it's now hitting the point of petty name calling and accusations- at least it's mirroring what's happening everywhere else - and people don't think the country is in a mess ?

Personally I feel the referendum itself has brought to the fore the divisions in the country, think it would be pretty similar which ever way the the vote went. Not sure if you were saying that, or picking out the result? From memory a large section of Conservatives (probably other MPs also) have been keen to leave the EU for many years, hence having a referendum going into the election pledges.

This sort of stuff really does not help

Let's put it bluntly those who voted leave were over the hill, and uneducated -

Expect one or two of those MPs had expensive private educations!

 

[Fish]

I think we've got out just in time, the Italian banks are on the brink of collapse and getting EU bailouts to the tune of 150bn and the Deutsche Bank is on the cusp of bankruptcy, who'll bail them out now? No wonder they were all quaking in case we left, Europe's sugar daddy is no longer part of the club!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...-€150bn-bank-bailout-program-prevent-run-depo

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Pointing out yet another unfortunate consequence that Brexit will have for the people that voted for it?

Why? What is the point?

Endless posts that basically says "good, I told you it would happen" isn't very productive and it certainly won't change things.

Surely It's much healthier to look forward, embrace change and highlight positives. Moping, dwelling on the past, picking out negative tweets , news stories etc cannot change anything and isnt good for you and the people around you.

Cheer up , spend less time on here and move on.

Whilst it continues to affect people's lives then those very same people will feel entitled to be worries and complain - that's called free speech and a part of a democratic process of course

It seems the answer to people's valid worries is - "Ah don't worry about focus on the positives" - I surprised there hasn't been a "Keep Calm picture added just yet"

The simple truth is the vote has created a lot more issues than people first realised - if you are happy to ignore those issues expecting them to fizzle away then "roll your sleeves up and crack on" but don't expect everyone to follow suit - especially the ones who didn't want it and are feeling the affects of it.

People will look at the positives when they actually managed to see actual ones as opposed to empty promises

 

[Hacker Khan]

Personally I feel the referendum itself has brought to the fore the divisions in the country, think it would be pretty similar which ever way the the vote went. Not sure if you were saying that, or picking out the result? From memory a large section of Conservatives (probably other MPs also) have been keen to leave the EU for many years, hence having a referendum going into the election pledges.

This sort of stuff really does not help



Expect one or two of those MPs had expensive private educations!

I think that's a bit of an exaggeration, I think it's more that they anti-Europeans are very vocal. I'm sure I read that if this goes to a vote in Parliament then they estimate only around 150 would vote to leave. So assuming most of them would be Tories that is still under half of the Tory MPs.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Pointing out yet another unfortunate consequence that Brexit will have for the people that voted for it?

Why? What is the point?

Endless posts that basically says "good, I told you it would happen" isn't very productive and it certainly won't change things.

Surely It's much healthier to look forward, embrace change and highlight positives. Moping, dwelling on the past, picking out negative tweets , news stories etc cannot change anything and isnt good for you and the people around you.

Cheer up , spend less time on here and move on.

Excellent, let us all just forget the total muck up the two sides of the Tory party have made of our country.
In financial reality this jolly old jape has sent us back to the 1980's and made the UK the laughing stock of the world.
As for 'I told you it would happen'. Well many experts did and, like Mr Gove, the separatists chose to ignore them.

Lets all go into denial, roll up our sleeves and fight the years of anguish, family break ups and poverty

 

[BubbaP]

I think that's a bit of an exaggeration, I think it's more that they anti-Europeans are very vocal. I'm sure I read that if this goes to a vote in Parliament then they estimate only around 150 would vote to leave. So assuming most of them would be Tories that is still under half of the Tory MPs.

You may be right, MPs are notoriously fickle to judge! It has been said that Cameron did not want a referendum, so why do you think he put it in, if not to pacify part of his party?
http://openeurope.org.uk/today/blog/conservative-manifesto-reaffirms-inout-eu-referendum-but-is-light-on-the-specifics-of-renegotiation/

 

[Hacker Khan]

You may be right, MPs are notoriously fickle to judge! It has been said that Cameron did not want a referendum, so why do you think he put it in, if not to pacify part of his party?
http://openeurope.org.uk/today/blog...t-is-light-on-the-specifics-of-renegotiation/

Partly yes and partly to get the voters back who were driftng to UKIP. Remember at the time this was dreamt up they were sharing power with the lib dems, UKIP was getting more popular and stealing some of the tory votes and the tories were not expecting to get a majority at the next election. So by putting the referendum in the manifesto I think they never expected to have to do it as the tories were expecting to possibly form another government with the lib dems and the lib dems would then veto the referendum. And there is a train of thought that a lot of the the anti-europeans tend to be the elderly members of the party, so the longer you wait the more they will essentially die off to be replaced by younger more euro friendly MPs. So it will become less of an issue.

But as we all too painfully know, we had the vote and we voted out, 2 things that I would bet they never really wanted or expected to happen.

 

[BubbaP]

Partly yes and partly to get the voters back who were driftng to UKIP. Remember at the time this was dreamt up they were sharing power with the lib dems, UKIP was getting more popular and stealing some of the tory votes and the tories were not expecting to get a majority at the next election. So by putting the referendum in the manifesto I think they never expected to have to do it as the tories were expecting to possibly form another government with the lib dems and the lib dems would then veto the referendum. And there is a train of thought that a lot of the the anti-europeans tend to be the elderly members of the party, so the longer you wait the more they will essentially die off to be replaced by younger more euro friendly MPs. So it will become less of an issue.

But as we all too painfully know, we had the vote and we voted out, 2 things that I would bet they never really wanted or expected to happen.

Yes, good points. Unfortunately as this is not a computer game, we can't reset to various points in time and run through different decisions. So we'll never never how various outcome would have played out.
Was just looking at the leadership players
May, 59, Remain
Crabb, 43, Remain
Gove, 48, Leave
Leadsom, 53, Leave
Fox, 54, Leave
Maybe does not support your elderly comment.

 

[Crazyface]

Partly yes and partly to get the voters back who were driftng to UKIP. Remember at the time this was dreamt up they were sharing power with the lib dems, UKIP was getting more popular and stealing some of the tory votes and the tories were not expecting to get a majority at the next election. So by putting the referendum in the manifesto I think they never expected to have to do it as the tories were expecting to possibly form another government with the lib dems and the lib dems would then veto the referendum. And there is a train of thought that a lot of the the anti-europeans tend to be the elderly members of the party, so the longer you wait the more they will essentially die off to be replaced by younger more euro friendly MPs. So it will become less of an issue.

But as we all too painfully know, we had the vote and we voted out, 2 things that I would bet they never really wanted or expected to happen.

Tada !!!! This, I think, is the correct post. Now go on to explain how Corbin was forced to say he wants to remain, but didn't, hence why he's sticking two fingers up to his own MP's, and is clinging on. I hope the party members stick to their guns and vote him back in. Yet another two fingers to the MP's who are so out of touch it is eye watering. I bet Corbin wishes he'd stuck to his guns and told Labour to go with Leave, he could have demanded a Gen Election and walked in.