I believe that they got more votes in total than the SNP in the last General Election, but hardly any seats in Parliament. Basically they came second in an lot of English seats, but that didn't get them elected.
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I believe that they got more votes in total than the SNP in the last General Election, but hardly any seats in Parliament. Basically they came second in an lot of English seats, but that didn't get them elected.
Doon frae Troon
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Answer please
Doon frae Troon
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What a daft argument 59 seats in Scotland.......how many in E&W.
SocketRocket
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The SNP got the majority of votes in a fairly small area (Scotland) which only contains about 10% of the UK population!
Hacker Khan
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So why do we need to poach other countries' skilled workers, when we should be educating and training our own people to do these jobs. Probably doesn't say a lot for New Labour's dumbed down, target driven, box ticking education system a few years ago. Apparently standards of basic literacy and numeracy are not great among our young people, compared with many other countries, but this is down to a poor education system rather than any innate lack of ability!
Delc I am a school governor and believe you me, the current government do not cover themselves in glory when it comes to education. Every government meddles to a stupid degree and is incapable of letting the professional teachers get on with it. The amount of educational policy based mostly on political ideology and dogma as opposed to proven educational research currently occurring is frightening.
If all you do is blame a government that has not been in power for over a term now for whatever ills we currently have then you are either deluded, stupid or swallow the tired old party central office mandated line that all parties tow of blaming everyone else.
Oh and you are wrong, a lot of it is cultural as the aspirations of many children are mostly not shaped by teachers but by parents, family, the media and society itself. The teachers can only work with what they get.
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OMG! I agree with HK again. Pass me some more yoghurt
Hacker Khan
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I'll bring the knitting needles
Lets go hug a tree
Ethan
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Typical UKIP. No coherent arguments, only ad hominem attacks and throwing the toys out. Have you considered standing for them? You seem highly qualified.
Happy for you not to debate me at all, and you could pay the ultimate insult by ignoring all my posts. Please.
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100% agree - especially about the constant blaming of labour who haven't been near government for half a decade now
Yes, but our unemployed and allegedly useless young people in their late teens and early 20's were mainly educated under New Labour. Keeping them off the dole queue for a few years by doing useless degrees in soft subjects doesn't really prepare them for the workplace! I am sure that the Tories are meddling too, but at least they are trying to improve standards.
Ethan
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Somewhere in between. The NHS budget is £133 billion. The cost of health tourism, that is people who travel to the UK to take advantage of free care, costs something in the region of 0.05% of that budget. That is an amount which falls within the noise of the budget. In other words, it is hard to notice it at a governmental level. Probably not worth making major public policy changes like leaving the EU for that.
Hacker Khan
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Bloody hell, LP and Hobbit both agreeing with me. Must be losing my touch....
SocketRocket
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Oh! The irony. Your posts are full of statements with no substance.
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You could take your own advise and ignore my posts. I wont mind!
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Hacker Khan
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Other than hearsay and speculation your evidence for this is???
At least exams have been made more stringent, so not everybody passes with an A* in the interests of equality!
Sorry to be a pendant but if it's in the region of, say, £20 million it's hardly noise. £20 mill will pay a lot of nurses wages.
Writing off £20 mill is careless at best.
since originally asking, the cost is £34mill, of which almost £20 mill is recovered but at a cost not calculated. Further, the overall cost to the state of those that avail themselves of health tourism but require care outside of acute care in hospital is closer to £2billion.
A number not calculated but of great concern is the number of claims being made against fraudulently acquired EHIC cards used in foreign hospitals.
As the sum needed to cover the NHS's shortfall is £8billion, and over £2 billion is being lost to health tourism and the fraudulent use of EHIC cards... That's definitely not noise hidden in the overall budget.
I've been employing staff, inc. youngsters, for over 20 yrs. The youngsters coming out of school in recent years have been way better than those I was seeing 10 yrs ago.
They're well educated, articulate and a credit to the system they've been in for the thick end of 20 yrs.
doing them down, and in effect the teachers that have educated them is very unfair at best.
Doon frae Troon
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Typical UKIP avoidance, my question was nothing to do with the SNP, it was to do with UKIP
The simple question I was asking, and so far have not received an answer is........ 'if UKIP are so popular why do they only have one MP'.
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