EU Referendum - are you Out or In

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I agree with him Gordon. Anyone over 60 should be precluded from voting. They potentially contribute to a change in circumstance that they won't see the repercussions of.

Qualification to vote should be working, tax payer. IMO of course

But they are still fully paid up, tax paying citizens. One man, one vote. One of the key fundamentals of a democracy.
 
What a sad, small minded comment this is! So all the retired people that have worked hard to make GB 'great' don't count any more? Are you for real?

You know what, that is exactly what I thought. cheers tashy for your 36 years graft now crawl under a stone and let the big boys talk. People like me and other old farts who have grafted have earned the right to vote, whether that's in or out is irrelevant.
 
But they are still fully paid up, tax paying citizens. One man, one vote. One of the key fundamentals of a democracy.

What about the women? Can they vote?
It can't just be based on immigration, unfortunately because a variety of reasons we run the risk of jeopardising the future because the past is scared of a different accent:o
 
What about the women? Can they vote?
It can't just be based on immigration, unfortunately because a variety of reasons we run the risk of jeopardising the future because the past is scared of a different accent:o

Never mind the women, can the Scots living in England vote? That is far more important :D
 
Undecided but more towards staying in than out - but then I fear change and better the devil you know and all that! Plan to do much more research before deciding for sure.
 
Undecided but more towards staying in than out - but then I fear change and better the devil you know and all that! Plan to do much more research before deciding for sure.

Hilarity aside:o

This is how I feel. I don't feel especially European, I'd never want to be part of the euro and unchecked immigration is an issue.....but I've yet to see a roadmap of what the exit looks like, it's too uncertain to just circle the wagons.

We're skint, we face a Tory future, Europe can help us dilute that.
 
I am a definite IN. I am happy to be a European despite the EU not being perfect. Just like I am OK with a Tory government despite never having voted for them.

I see a lot of positives in how the UK has been improved by all the people who have been able to move here from EU countries and are eager to work and pay tax etc. I only really see British people who are happy to not work and live off the state.

I was born in Scotland and live in Scotland, however I am British. If the UK (at least those eligible to vote) votes to leave, I am seriously worried that Scotland will force another referendum and that Scotland will leave the UK.

Someone on the radio the other day said that 4 million UK citizens live (and work) in the EU, what will happen to them if we leave?

I will be distraught if we leave, I really hope that the British people look at the positives of being part of a vibrant Europe and vote to stay in.
 
Undecided......id be inclined to vote no if I heard that we will have an EFTA style agreement similar to Switzerland and Norway, but I doubt Europe would give us that luxury.

Also, I'd like to understand the position of some large private sector employers around the country. So far I've not heard much as to whether they will stay or go depending on the outcome of the vote....especially if mainland Europe is a larger market for them than the uk.
 
Large companies will probably state their position closer to the referendum. That's what happened in Scotland prior to the UK referendum.
 
What a sad, small minded comment this is! So all the retired people that have worked hard to make GB 'great' don't count any more? Are you for real?

Really, sometimes the tough stuff has to be said...
As for be bullied by big business, no, I work for a major manufacturer, we need access to the markets we need to compete with our European competitors on a level playing field ... There is nothing "great" about a solitary Britain.
 
I am a definite IN. I am happy to be a European despite the EU not being perfect. Just like I am OK with a Tory government despite never having voted for them.

I see a lot of positives in how the UK has been improved by all the people who have been able to move here from EU countries and are eager to work and pay tax etc. I only really see British people who are happy to not work and live off the state.

I was born in Scotland and live in Scotland, however I am British. If the UK (at least those eligible to vote) votes to leave, I am seriously worried that Scotland will force another referendum and that Scotland will leave the UK.

Someone on the radio the other day said that 4 million UK citizens live (and work) in the EU, what will happen to them if we leave?

I will be distraught if we leave, I really hope that the British people look at the positives of being part of a vibrant Europe and vote to stay in.

Scotland cant Force a referendum, they can only have one with the approval of parliament and I cant see that happening for the next 20/30 years.

People living here from the EU wont be told to pack up and go, they may have to apply for a visa but if they are working they would be OK, not so sure of those that are just on benefits though. I imagine the same would apply to Brits over there. It just wouldn't be a sudden iron curtain pulled down.
 
My feeling is that if we left the EU and isolate ourselves it could lead to divisions between us and Europe, by being in the EU it at least gives us a easier opportunity to diffuse any situations that might crop up in the future.

'Isolate Ourselves" ! Thats a bit dramatic, we will still trade with the EU, go on holidays there, eat their apples, drive their cars and drink their wine. We will also be able to discuss and settle issues, why do you think we wont be able to?
 
Guys we have 2 euro referendum threads going at the mo,
Can we have this one as an indication of how you will vote, with comments, opinions, etc on the main thread

Ta Muchly
 
Really, sometimes the tough stuff has to be said...
As for be bullied by big business, no, I work for a major manufacturer, we need access to the markets we need to compete with our European competitors on a level playing field ... There is nothing "great" about a solitary Britain.

It's not your comments about big businesses I was referring to, it was the totally crass and insensitive way you dismissed elder people. If you are lucky, one day you will be one of those people.
 
It's not your comments about big businesses I was referring to, it was the totally crass and insensitive way you dismissed elder people. If you are lucky, one day you will be one of those people.
Then I would know when it was my business or not ... Dismissed.
 
'Isolate Ourselves" ! Thats a bit dramatic, we will still trade with the EU, go on holidays there, eat their apples, drive their cars and drink their wine. We will also be able to discuss and settle issues, why do you think we wont be able to?

More's the point is actually 'why do you think we will be able to?' The spurned wife in an acrimonious divorce, left with the young toddler children and truculent teenager to bring up, is not always that accommodating of the husband who breaks from the family to go seek new love, fame and fortune free of the straightjacket of the marriage.

Absolutely STAY/IN
 
IN for me. Outside the EU, we're too small. And despite a certain number of moronic decisions, I do believe that in general the EU is good for all of us.

This is going to be a very interesting few months. I find myself on the same side as Cameron, ffs? :confused:

I did think today that IDS was just a bit dim. The very first thing that one of the senior OUT politicians says is about protecting the borders to prevent And as terrorism? Think people will see through FUD on that level, that isn't where the debate lies.
 
More's the point is actually 'why do you think we will be able to?' The spurned wife in an acrimonious divorce, left with the young toddler children and truculent teenager to bring up, is not always that accommodating of the husband who breaks from the family to go seek new love, fame and fortune free of the straightjacket of the marriage.

Absolutely STAY/IN

And when the spurned wife realises that she is losing billions of pounds each year in lost trade?
 
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