EU Referendum - are you Out or In

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EU - Out or In


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I'm for out. For me, it's got nothing to do with immigration or finance. It's about self determination.

That's also it for me :thup:

This plus we will always put in more than we get out.

This is it for me, but in the opposite direction, I'm for staying in.

We only need some knob like Boris getting in (and with the Murdoch led British public that is easily possible) and who knows where we might end up.
Europe will prevent any leader pushing their own extreme views and steering the UK into the mire.

People always talk about Europe imposing its rules on the UK but, in all honesty, how many such rules have been damaging to the UK?
 
I don't have a vote but I would vote out

I believe we have reached a point were we loose more than we gain by being in, I also believe any trade agreements needed can be pit in place from the outside. There will be short term pain but it will result in long term gain
 
Not being a Daily Mail reading Little Englander, I shall be voting to stay in. Being part of a larger political and trading group seems to make sense to me in the somewhat dangerous world we live in. We are not big or powerful enough to go it alone.
 
We only need some knob like Boris getting in (and with the Murdoch led British public that is easily possible) and who knows where we might end up.

Unfortunately, this could happen whether UK is in Europe or not! Some would say that's been the case for the last 6 years! Others that it was the case for the 12 years before that! And what would happen if Corbyn became PM is probably the biggest problem Labour has!

Europe will prevent any leader pushing their own extreme views and steering the UK into the mire.

I can't see how they'd do that! They didn't prevent Greece or Italy becoming basket cases! Or Spain's dire economic performance (now supposedly on the road to recovery) or (waiting to become a crisis) Portugal's huge political and debt issues - which will likely be the next 'crisis', depending whether or not there's a Brexit!

People always talk about Europe imposing its rules on the UK but, in all honesty, how many such rules have been damaging to the UK?

Agreed! SMEs who don't export might benefit from less regulation/standards, but most EU regs dropped would have to be replaced by UK ones anyway, which could more issues/confusion for consumers - and more cost to set up and administer!

Oh! And here's an old link that kills some of the weirder scares of daft EU regulation! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6481969.stm
 
Reafarding Boz being the next Tory leader.

He needs to get his act together and decide who he really is.

He's obviously an educated bloke with a bit of a brain but it suits him to project the image of a bumbling oaf. It charms the Tory old dears who want to mother him, but who, sadly, will also vote for him too come any opportunity.

Bumbling oaf won't cut it on the world stage and the prospect of him and Trump in Chequers or The Oval Office, three years hence and discussing my future, turns my blood to ice.
 
Reafarding Boz being the next Tory leader.

He needs to get his act together and decide who he really is.

He's obviously an educated bloke with a bit of a brain but it suits him to project the image of a bumbling oaf. It charms the Tory old dears who want to mother him, but who, sadly, will also vote for him too come any opportunity.

Bumbling oaf won't cut it on the world stage and the prospect of him and Trump in Chequers or The Oval Office, three years hence and discussing my future, turns my blood to ice.

So would you sleep safely in your bed with a warm glow if it was Corbyn and Putin discussing your future?
 
Reafarding Boz being the next Tory leader.

He needs to get his act together and decide who he really is.

He's obviously an educated bloke with a bit of a brain but it suits him to project the image of a bumbling oaf. It charms the Tory old dears who want to mother him, but who, sadly, will also vote for him too come any opportunity.

Bumbling oaf won't cut it on the world stage and the prospect of him and Trump in Chequers or The Oval Office, three years hence and discussing my future, turns my blood to ice.

Can you imagine the situation of a Boris vs Corbyn election - with Trump as POTUS?

Executive Monarchy anyone? Hang on, that could well be Charles III!
 
Reminds me of my late grandfather telling me about 1938 when ......"British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain triumphantly returns to Britain claiming to have negotiated, ‘peace with honour’ and declares, ‘I believe it is peace in our time.’ " Yeh. Right :eek:
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Chamberlain was rather 'hard-done by' for that morale-boosting statement - and Churchill's subsequent demolition of him in print! Britain had been preparing for war since 1934, before Chamberlain became PM, and he sacked a couple of ministers because of the lack of progress in it!
 
Currently I am IN.

dont have ( And doubt ever will have) enough facts to make the leap into the unknown.

Better the devil you know and all that ...
 
When bankers started squirrelling away billions of pounds things happened to try and stop it.

When EU ministers and staff start fiddling the tax payer of billions of pounds every year it appears some want to slap them on the back and let them crack on.
 
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