England Vs New Zealand

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Not Kick 'n' Clap, a proper game of rugby is taking place and what a great game it is, England out the traps well with some excellent intensity but NZ looking more settled now but not taking their chances, could be a great result...come on England.
 
Spectacular try by NZ right on the break sets it up for a great 2nd half.

Not at the break, still a few minutes to go..
 
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I do enjoy rugby league I have to say but NZ arent the benchmark in that code the Aussies are.

It's not the as good as the proper game though and miles easier, ask Sam Burgess ;)
 
I do enjoy rugby league I have to say but NZ arent the benchmark in that code the Aussies are.

It's not the as good as the proper game though and miles easier, ask Sam Burgess ;)

Whilst I agree Aussies are #1, the Kiwi's aren't too far behind and so any win has to be seen as a good result. Getting a similar series win away to either of these two would be a massive boost. Does anyone know the last time we beat NZ or Australia away in a series
 
New zealand are number 1 in the world in RL after winning the four nations and beating the Aussies in the Anzac test in Aus.

Might change after today though ;)
 
New zealand are number 1 in the world in RL after winning the four nations and beating the Aussies in the Anzac test in Aus.

Might change after today though ;)

Lol, still widely accepted though that the Aussies are the RL masters though

Hope Burgess tears it up at South Sydney again, I was eager for him to do well at Bath.
 
I do enjoy rugby league I have to say but NZ arent the benchmark in that code the Aussies are.

It's not the as good as the proper game though and miles easier, ask Sam Burgess ;)
Agree Aussies are the benchmark but the Burgess quote is miles out.
He was misused terribly and played miles out of position in yawnion and been made the scapegoat through no fault of his own. Never in a million years is he a centre he was/is a prop forward. Love to see a union prop going to league to become a back! Played all year at Bath in the forwards only for Lancaster to put him on the biggest stage of all with no experience playing totally out of position and all after only 20 odd games in the code. Just glad he is back where he belongs enjoying his game again.
 
Agree Aussies are the benchmark but the Burgess quote is miles out.
He was misused terribly and played miles out of position in yawnion and been made the scapegoat through no fault of his own. Never in a million years is he a centre he was/is a prop forward. Love to see a union prop going to league to become a back! Played all year at Bath in the forwards only for Lancaster to put him on the biggest stage of all with no experience playing totally out of position and all after only 20 odd games in the code. Just glad he is back where he belongs enjoying his game again.

My ;) smilie was lost I you I take it.

Burgess is a class player and given time would have been a superb back rower in union. Unfortunately I believe the RWC call up was wrong which led to him going back to RL and Lancaster losing his job.
 
My ;) smilie was lost I you I take it.

Burgess is a class player and given time would have been a superb back rower in union. Unfortunately I believe the RWC call up was wrong which led to him going back to RL and Lancaster losing his job.
Yes obviously:o
Lancaster totally lost the plot in the end and his call to select Burgess ahead of Burrell, a specialist centre and a really good one at that was baffling but not Sam's fault.
 
Agree Aussies are the benchmark but the Burgess quote is miles out.
He was misused terribly and played miles out of position in yawnion and been made the scapegoat through no fault of his own. Never in a million years is he a centre he was/is a prop forward. Love to see a union prop going to league to become a back! Played all year at Bath in the forwards only for Lancaster to put him on the biggest stage of all with no experience playing totally out of position and all after only 20 odd games in the code. Just glad he is back where he belongs enjoying his game again.

Burgess was misused and misinformed. He wanted to play in the World Cup but left himself no time to learn the game. He could have stayed for another 4 years and learned Union properly, he could have been a world class 6 or centre. I genuinely think so. Unfortunately the prospect of slogging it out in the mud in bath, playing a game he didn't really love, understandably didn't appeal.

To call it 'kick and clap' and 'yawnion' is cliched, chip on yer shoulder, northern bollards.i didn't see the kiwis or the Aussies playing an unattractive game. Unfortunately English Union doesn't value the same vision :o

You can get excited about yesterday, it was a good performance after the dross of last week, but it wasn't a full strength NZ team.
 
You can get excited about yesterday, it was a good performance after the dross of last week, but it wasn't a full strength NZ team.

It was not a full strength England side either to be fair

We had Sam Tomkins, Alex Walmsley and George Burgess missing. Thats the words most expensive player, a Man of Steel nominee (should have won IMO) and a beast of a Prop forward. All of these would have been guaranteed to have been selected in the 17.

There are a few fringe players missing that would also have helped bolster the back line too.

I agree and dont think any fan will get carried away with the win though, but it is a great bit of preparation for next years 4 nations.
 
It was not a full strength England side either to be fair

We had Sam Tomkins, Alex Walmsley and George Burgess missing. Thats the words most expensive player, a Man of Steel nominee (should have won IMO) and a beast of a Prop forward. All of these would have been guaranteed to have been selected in the 17.

There are a few fringe players missing that would also have helped bolster the back line too.

I agree and dont think any fan will get carried away with the win though, but it is a great bit of preparation for next years 4 nations.
I don't really know enough about rugby league to comment, I was doing a homer and regurgitating commentators facts :o.but winning is a good habit.

It's a shame we don't see enough league. They should break the mould and strike a terrestrial tv deal. I'm not sure the limited sky audience helps them.

In my bachelor days we used to watch the ARL all the time. Joey Johns is my favourite ever player of either code :thup:
 
To call it 'kick and clap' and 'yawnion' is cliched, chip on yer shoulder, northern bollards.

I suppose the following is cliched, chip on your shoulder, Southern bollards.

"The criteria to play for England shouldn't be owning a whippet and having pigeon s@@t on your shoulders".

Have a guess who wrote it in the Stuart Lancaster thread.

 
Good to finally get over the line.

Thought this one might slip away as well the way the Kiwi's started the second half but good to see us hang in.

Removing the corner flag from touch has lead to some pretty spectacular tries in recent years but I don't recall seeing one were the winger (Nightingale) dived over the top of the full back (Hardacre) himself diving to make the tackle.
 
I suppose the following is cliched, chip on your shoulder, Southern bollards.

"The criteria to play for England shouldn't be owning a whippet and having pigeon s@@t on your shoulders".

Have a guess who wrote it in the Stuart Lancaster thread.



Its a direct quote from an England Union player from the 80's (whose name escapes me), when Mike Harrison was captain. It has no relevance to any other sport inc league, but you weren't to know that:o
No need to feel silly
 
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