Beezerk
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Dunno mate, I just remember they turned tripe after the doctor malarky and got slightly less tripe after Mourinho left.
That's not for this thread anyway.
England Football Team - managers job
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Dunno mate, I just remember they turned tripe after the doctor malarky and got slightly less tripe after Mourinho left.
That's not for this thread anyway.
we lost to Iceland!
i don't think anyone can take the blame for that except the players.
Hodgson had to go as his changes were clueless, but the players that started and came on in that came should have got the job done whether me, you or guardiola were on the bench.
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With that squad a better manager would have got more out of the players - would have played the players in their correct position and used better tactics especially tactics suited to the players and would have IMO got better results in the group stages and also in the KO - the manager takes responsibility for setting the team up and the tactics they employ - a non league manager could have done a better job with those players than Hodgson. The players England have got are talented with some areas to improve but they should be doing better than what they have done for the last three tournaments - that is because of the manager and that's why they finally got rid of him.
ColchesterFC
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But how long have we been saying both of the things highlighted in bold above. We know that you don't like Hodgson but it hasn't just been him. We've had Scholes playing out wide to allow both Gerrard and Lampard to play in the middle in the past. It goes way back LP and we need a manager with the balls to pick players based on fitness and form and not because they play for the "right" clubs or have pictures of the manager in compromising positions or whatever other reason it is that managers keep making the same mistakes over and over again. And then once we've picked the players that are in form we need a manager that will play them in the positions they are used to playing for their clubs.
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English, not scouse.
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It's not just Hodgson and during the qualifiers he looked at times to be picking form players - until it came to finals , Capello just wasn't right , McClaren was even worse - Sven had England at right about the right level - Quarters just missing out a few times on shootouts etc , Keegan was the same as all the other English and Fat Sam will be no different - he will go with what has worked for him in the Prem but just like Hodgson , McClaren , Keegan lack that extra edge to take them the next step up from "mid table managerial"
The best managers get the best players together and work out the best tactics that suit them and get the best results - England do have some talented players and have done over the years , they haven't had that one global superstar or making the right choice at the right time but they should be doing better than what they have done in the past 4 years
Whilst a manager takes blames for tactics. The players were just as accountable as hodgson for the Iceland game. They have no hiding place after that imo.
to be a top manager, or thought of as one at least. You need a break, and then to take it. Some take that chance, some don't, and some are still waiting for one.
Sam hasn't had a chance at a club that's even been expected to do well. I remember the class players he had at Bolton. They weren't all about the long ball.
to be a top manager, or thought of as one at least. You need a break, and then to take it. Some take that chance, some don't, and some are still waiting for one.
Sam hasn't had a chance at a club that's even been expected to do well. I remember the class players he had at Bolton. They weren't all about the long ball.
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English, not scouse.
'Koff la, I touted Big Sam minutes after Mr Hodgson departed.
At least when we lose before an international break, big Sams football will give me a smile or two.
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So he's totally unproven in the highest echelons of football yet he's suitable for thee gland job?
Alright. At least he'll sing GSTQ at full pelt along with Phil brown and Kevin Davies as his coaches:rofl:
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Worked for Bilic and Klinsman, whose to say he can't make a success of it.
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Haha Allardyce is a yard dog manager, he'll ruin what's left of the talent those players had.
no English manager has the credentials most would like. Because the fa and the premier league have no care for one another.
The orem is all about success and the clubs seem to think that a young foreign manager is more attractive than a young English one.
The he same with players, cheap options instead of inflated English ones. Unfortunateky I think it does t matter who's in charge of England, their hands will be tied.
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Every club he's been at has had flair players, but he gets them working as a team and solid, Bilic had no credentials as a manager and Croatia took a chance, Big Sam will do alright.
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Beezerk
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Scousers in "tell the rest of the world how to play football" shocker!!!
Crazyface
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Sam is ENGLISH and thank God for that. He'll sort out those wasters in the England team who think they are better than they are. Rooney lad, you're a striker, if you don't want to play there, we've got plenty (at the moment) that can etc etc.
I cannot believe there are so many of you on here that are slagging him off before he's even start the job. I for one will be backing him all the way. I hated Woy, Sven and Capello and am dead chuffed we've got a real English bulldog in charge.
I cannot believe there are so many of you on here that are slagging him off before he's even start the job. I for one will be backing him all the way. I hated Woy, Sven and Capello and am dead chuffed we've got a real English bulldog in charge.
Doon frae Troon
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Oh dear I have this Harry Enfield's two pub characters image of Sam ...........I'D SAY......OI ..ROONEY..............in my head now.
Liverbirdie
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Sounds like the first choice of the little Ingurlanders, then.:thup:
Hosel Fade
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Scousers in "tell the rest of the world how to play football" shocker!!!
Could have had the magnificent prophet of football who proclaims that the opposition should feel blessed to watch their expression of passing. Or some similarly annoying entitled manager that doesn't have a plan B like Wenger or Martinez.
ColchesterFC
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As opposed to Hodgson, Sven and Capello who all brought out the best in our players and made them world beaters? Personally I don't think Allardyce is the right man for the job but I'm not going to slate him until he's had a chance to prove himself and can he really do much worse than we've seen in recent times?
