England Football Team - managers job

[Crazyface]

The goalie will be replaced unless his attitude changes. As for tactics, Sam is a great tactician and will make sure his back room staff are well trained and knowledgeable.

I think he will be looking at a back three, as will most managers.

 

[Hosel Fade]

The goalie will be replaced unless his attitude changes. As for tactics, Sam is a great tactician and will make sure his back room staff are well trained and knowledgeable. I think he will be looking at a back three, as will most managers.

Quite agree with this, we have a lack of top notch central defenders and wingers yet plenty of fullbacks that fancy themselves as wingers. Seems a sensible way to go around this issue and enable the use of two strikers

 

[Papas1982]

Quite agree with this, we have a lack of top notch central defenders and wingers yet plenty of fullbacks that fancy themselves as wingers. Seems a sensible way to go around this issue and enable the use of two strikers

maybe he could get hoddle on board, that was always a fav of his.

 

[Deleted member 1418]

My brother played under him for a couple of months when he was Bolton manager in the side that contained Okocha, Campo etc. He only had good things to say about Big Sam as a manager and the way he went about his business. He was probably the first English manager that embraced sports science and technology to aid his players alongside 'English' team bonding methods (he still speaks fondly of the day the Bolton side turned up for training and were instead taken to a pub where the order of the day was a few beers, roast lunch, and pub games involving pool, darts, skittles and shove happeny!!)

Apparently the foreign players loved it!

Whilst he wouldn't have been my first choice, I think he'll actually do a very good job. The players will certainly be under no illusions as to who's in charge!

 

[Piece]

Not my first choice either, but it could have been worse. Happy to give him a chance, just none of this long ball stuff please.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

The FA shouldn't be giving managers "chances".

IMO the England manager should be the best available man for the job regardless of nationality, Allardyce is not in that criteria.

Embarrassing decision.

 

[Papas1982]

For me it should always been an Englishman.

I know in other sports (cricket and rugby) we take anyone who's gran had a one nighter with a visitor. But I like the idea of a nations best against anothers.

I genuinely wouldn't take satisfaction if an adopted player, januzi for for example scored for us if he'd chosen to represent us. Same for the manager.

I know lots of other nations have. Some with success, some without. But I'd much rather lose as England than win with others in charge.

Out of of curiosity though, who is currently the best available that England could expect to attract?

 

[Deleted member 1740]

For me it should always been an Englishman.

I know in other sports (cricket and rugby) we take anyone who's gran had a one nighter with a visitor. But I like the idea of a nations best against anothers.

I genuinely wouldn't take satisfaction if an adopted player, januzi for for example scored for us if he'd chosen to represent us. Same for the manager.

I know lots of other nations have. Some with success, some without. But I'd much rather lose as England than win with others in charge.

Out of of curiosity though, who is currently the best available that England could expect to attract?

The FA pay top money,always have done.

Hiddink is available.

 

[Papas1982]

The FA pay top money,always have done.

Hiddink is available.

Who just flopped with Holland.....

He's a bigger name certainly. But a good first stint aside. Has managed lots of nations without any massive success imo. So not sure it suggests he'd be any better with England.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Who just flopped with Holland.....

He's a bigger name certainly. But a good first stint aside. Has managed lots of nations without any massive success imo. So not sure it suggests he'd be any better with England.

Hiddink has won big titles in club management including the European Cup

Took Holland to semi of WC
South Korea Semi's of WC
Russia to Semi's of Euros

Fat Sam took Bolton to a Carling Cup final once - you can't compare the two

If the FA continue to look towards the same type of English manager then they will have a team that continues to fail - Taylor , McClaren , Hodgson , Keegan even Hoddle messed up in the WC

 

[Papas1982]

Hiddink has won big titles in club management including the European Cup

Took Holland to semi of WC
South Korea Semi's of WC
Russia to Semi's of Euros

Fat Sam took Bolton to a Carling Cup final once - you can't compare the two

If the FA continue to look towards the same type of English manager then they will have a team that continues to fail - Taylor , McClaren , Hodgson , Keegan even Hoddle messed up in the WC

Sven and capello oath had records too and how did they do?

Sam hasn't had a shot with an Intl team yet so a record can't be compared. But all I'll say is he hasn't left a team when given a full season, in a worse state than when he took over.

If saints ever had him in charge I wouldn't grumble. Think he's massively underrated, as someone pointed out earlier, he was one of the first to really implement sports science and has made upsetting the favourites quite a big part of his career.

Id say england have much more chance winning something whilst playing as underdogs, than turning up and thinking we're good enough.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

As Hiddink is now nearly 70 it is hard to imagine he would want the England job, certainly on a medium to long term basis.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Who just flopped with Holland.....

He's a bigger name certainly. But a good first stint aside. Has managed lots of nations without any massive success imo. So not sure it suggests he'd be any better with England.

He's got better credentials than Allardyce.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

As Hiddink is now nearly 70 it is hard to imagine he would want the England job, certainly on a medium to long term basis.

Can you honestly see Allardyce as England manager in 4yrs time?

 

[Beezerk]

He's got better credentials than Allardyce.

I honestly don't think credentials matter at the moment, getting players to work as a team is top priority imo.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Sven and capello oath had records too and how did they do?

Sam hasn't had a shot with an Intl team yet so a record can't be compared. But all I'll say is he hasn't left a team when given a full season, in a worse state than when he took over.

If saints ever had him in charge I wouldn't grumble. Think he's massively underrated, as someone pointed out earlier, he was one of the first to really implement sports science and has made upsetting the favourites quite a big part of his career.

Id say england have much more chance winning something whilst playing as underdogs, than turning up and thinking we're good enough.

Do you honestly believe that?

England's elite players are taught to believe in themselves, footballers in general play better when they believed their own ability.

And let's be honest under Hodgson the expectations of the England side had never been so low.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

I honestly don't think credentials matter at the moment, getting players to work as a team is top priority imo.

Judging him on his last job, Chelsea looked a complete different side under Hiddink than the same squad of players did under Mourinho no?

 

[Papas1982]

Do you honestly believe that?

England's elite players are taught to believe in themselves, footballers in general play better when they believed their own ability.

And let's be honest under Hodgson the expectations of the England side had never been so low.

Yes.

Did the players look like they believed in themselves this summer?

Just because they play in our league I'm not sure many of our players are the true elite ones at their clubs.

How many players do we have that would grace a top intl team?

 

[Hosel Fade]

Yes.

Did the players look like they believed in themselves this summer?

Just because they play in our league I'm not sure many of our players are the true elite ones at their clubs.

How many players do we have that would grace a top intl team?

Danny Rose, thats about it, mainly because pretty much no one has a quality left back. Arguments might be made for Kane but he showed nothing at the tournament

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Yes.

Did the players look like they believed in themselves this summer?

Just because they play in our league I'm not sure many of our players are the true elite ones at their clubs.

How many players do we have that would grace a top intl team?

Yes, I think all of them believe in their own ability. Believing in a mangers tactics and game plan is a different matter. It was blatantly obvious the problems in France, they were the same in Brazil.

England team are made up of the top English elite players. I never said those players were the best at their clubs.

The last question is hypothetical.