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Drop zones in ridiculously generous places

And if the surrounding area is lower than the bunker........... (as is the case with many of our bunkers).
I could be really pedantic and say that the bunker is the sandy bit so how can the surrounding area be lower?

I do understand what point you are trying to make though ;)
 
The Hotchkin is at the extremes of bunkering, so isn't a particularly useful example, but even so there is much more to the course than just bunkers.

The answers many (most) amateurs would give to a lot of questions about how they might score from various situations would bear little relation to their actual results. Whether playing from a greenside bunker or from a drop outside of a greenside bunker, their average scores will be very similar, regardless of what they think they might do. Add to that how few bunkers get visited in the average round of golf, and the difference in scoring is minimal.
You haven’t played with me then😂😂😂😂
 
Dig a relief channel by hand to drain them ,just run the water out at the lowest point.

We have tried various measures including proper drainage with appropriate pipe work. Biggest problems are the sand washing out of the bunkers with the water and drain pipes etc getting clogged. It all sounds so simple but...

As already said we filled in one bunker but all we got in it's place was a big puddle.
 
We have tried various measures including proper drainage with appropriate pipe work. Biggest problems are the sand washing out of the bunkers with the water and drain pipes etc getting clogged. It all sounds so simple but...

As already said we filled in one bunker but all we got in it's place was a big puddle.
That’s really strange if the land is lower than the bunker.
Rain is usually not enough to fill a bunker with water it’s normally run off from the surrounding land.

Nothing is simple with water and drains only last so long and just clog up.

Only thing I can think of is a relief trench outside the bunker at the high point to divert the water around it.
This might stop the water getting in , but won’t last forever.

It could be the bunker has a clay bowl construction that’s why it’s holding the water.?

Lots of clubs are filling in bunkers as the price of sand is astronomical.
Some golfers like that 😉
 
We have tried various measures including proper drainage with appropriate pipe work. Biggest problems are the sand washing out of the bunkers with the water and drain pipes etc getting clogged. It all sounds so simple but...

As already said we filled in one bunker but all we got in it's place was a big puddle.
Using cloth-covered plastic pipe is best, and make provisions for cleanout/flushing.
 
That’s really strange if the land is lower than the bunker.
Rain is usually not enough to fill a bunker with water it’s normally run off from the surrounding land.

Nothing is simple with water and drains only last so long and just clog up.

Only thing I can think of is a relief trench outside the bunker at the high point to divert the water around it.
This might stop the water getting in , but won’t last forever.


It could be the bunker has a clay bowl construction that’s why it’s holding the water.?

Lots of clubs are filling in bunkers as the price of sand is astronomical.
Some golfers like that 😉
Using cloth-covered plastic pipe is best, and make provisions for cleanout/flushing.

You are both getting into cost implications that the club does not want to go into.

We are in to a programme of reviewing all of our bunkers with a plan to fill in some of them

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Really is a case of seeing the land to fully understand the problems, as already said we are a hilly golf course. Many greens are cut in to slopes with the land above the bunkers on one side being higher than than bunker and on the other water collects at the lowest point of the bunker meaning there is no point of relief that is not closer to the hole. The soil in the main is sandstone based, natural drainage means that the problem does not last for long if there is no further rain for some days.
 
You are both getting into cost implications that the club does not want to go into.

We are in to a programme of reviewing all of our bunkers with a plan to fill in some of them

Bold highlighted bit

Really is a case of seeing the land to fully understand the problems, as already said we are a hilly golf course. Many greens are cut in to slopes with the land above the bunkers on one side being higher than than bunker and on the other water collects at the lowest point of the bunker meaning there is no point of relief that is not closer to the hole. The soil in the main is sandstone based, natural drainage means that the problem does not last for long if there is no further rain for some days.
Yes cost is usually the biggest factor 👍
 
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