Robobum
Money List Winner
That's fine, I've made my point.
I take responsibility for my own actions - what others do is their business.
DQ'd late on tee
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That's fine, I've made my point.
I take responsibility for my own actions - what others do is their business.
JCW
Journeyman Pro
nobody is having a go at you mate , well I ain`t for sure , all I am saying these guys need pulling up , how many more rules will they get wrong if they can just spoil someone else day without having to answer , they should be told that unless they 100% sure they should wait till in the club house where they can get the correct ruling that's all
Robobum
Money List Winner
Don't worry, never thought you (or anyone else for that matter) was.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Question " is a committee member a committee member when he is on the course playing in a comp or is he just another competitor.?" He is only in authority when the committee is in session. I would not trust anybodys ruling of anything on the golf course and would always call for a ruling when completed round was over. Most of the committee members I know just want to be golfers on the course and will not answer questions on the golf course and rightly so. If you get caught speeding you have a 2/3mph grace because the speedos in most cars are not that accurate so who keeps time on the first tee if there is no starter present a bit of common sense needed here me thinks. you should NOT tee off early if all the competitors are not present. But I agree this guy needs taking down a bit from up his own A*******e. The rule is pretty clear and you need to stand your ground with people like this.
Foxholer
Blackballed
Yes he's a (Club) Committee member. But possibly/probably not a member of The Committee - as defined by The Rules. So simply another competitor when playing in a comp. However, for another member/competitor, his 'office' would mean something. But he is out of date in terms of the Rules - by over 2 years!
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
Not sure this has been answered yet but who actually DQ'd him and when did the DQ happen?
My thinking here, is there a 2nd person on the committee who decided on the DQ outcome because I cant imagine the chairman of the handicap committee (who was playing in the comp) DQ'd him on the 2nd tee box!
Region3
Ryder Cup Winner
I've not read all of the thread, but from the OP the thing that screams out at me regardless of the rights and wrongs of the situation with the rules, is that 2 competitors tee'd off early while they were still waiting for a member of their group.
If the comp is running ahead of schedule and everyone's ready fine, get going, but to go without someone before they're late? That would really make my blood boil.
If the comp is running ahead of schedule and everyone's ready fine, get going, but to go without someone before they're late? That would really make my blood boil.
USER1999
Grand Slam Winner
Was the clock on the first tee cosc certified and calibrated?
atticusfinch
Challenge Tour Pro
Was the player's late start caused by the early start of the others? (That could be an exceptional circumstance depending on the facts.) If not this is a simple case of rule 6-3a. The player should not have been DQ. How to handle the politics of the situation is not covered in the rules.
(The early start of the others is also a breach of 6-3a, but that has not been asked here.)
(The early start of the others is also a breach of 6-3a, but that has not been asked here.)
Foxholer
Blackballed
Wimp! :rofl:
I think your (supposed) fellow competitors must be living in the past! Being late on the tee for a comp used to be a DQ, but the rules have been amended to a 2 shot penalty or loss of hole if up to 5 minutes late and a DQ after that. :mmm:
chrisd
Major Champion
You should be DQ'd from this thread for being so late with the rule!
Colin L
Tour Winner
I pointed out above [Post #28] that the player is only late by the clock, not relative to how far he is behind the rest of his group which teed off too early. The OP indicates that the player was 1 minute late for his 0820 start. He might well have been more than 5 minutes behind the group, but that is of no relevance: he is only required to be ready to play at the time designated by the Committee. It is indeed a simple 2 point penalty.
The OP may not have asked about the early start of the other players, but the issue was picked up earlier and it was pointed out then [[Post#12] that they too should be penalised.
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duncan mackie
Money List Winner
Foxholer
Blackballed
:rofl:
Go easy on him Chris.
At least he read the 1st post (more than many do in some threads!). Didn't get as far as the 6th though!
Oddly, one of the 'sorts' that sprang to mind as the 'Committee Man' when I read the OP though! :rofl:
chrisd
Major Champion
Spot on Fox!
backwoodsman
Tour Winner
Yes, he was entitled to continue as has been stated plenty in previous posts - but as an aside to all this, what would be the position as regards the player having his card marked for the first hole? In the circumstances described of attempting to join in at the 2nd, wouldn't he have been on his own without a marker?
Which leds to a subsidiary question. Two players ready and waiting on the tee - the third not yet arrived by the allotted time. Given the third can still play (under penalty) if he arrives within 5 mins of the allotted time, should the other two not wait the full five mins before setting off? Is there any obligation that they do (or don't) wait?
Which leds to a subsidiary question. Two players ready and waiting on the tee - the third not yet arrived by the allotted time. Given the third can still play (under penalty) if he arrives within 5 mins of the allotted time, should the other two not wait the full five mins before setting off? Is there any obligation that they do (or don't) wait?
rulefan
Tour Winner
Why am I quoting the wrong penalty? That is what it says in Rule 6-3a. :mmm:
