Coronavirus - political views - supporting or otherwise...

[Old Skier]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-53114251

Sums it up nicely with the centralised data storage .. who wants to hand over their data to this gov?

Got any store cards

 

[rudebhoy]

As I understand it, the iPhone link could have worked but Apple wouldn't provide the necessary access facility.

Which they stated right from the start. So it was never going to work. Apple provided an API which would have allowed a decentralised app to work but we chose to go for a different option.

 

[drdel]

Got any store cards

+ Amazon
+ Ebay
+ +

 

[rudebhoy]

No I agree with the close the app should almost be forced to be used imo for the good of the nation but whilst concerns over privacy are there with this untrustworthy gov then some people won't download .. which will make the exercise much less effective.

The apple and Google suggested app seems a happy middle ground as if somebody has and uses a smart phone they already trust apple or Google with their data so more likely to agree to it.. plus apple and Google can push them to phones if needed

I'm not concerned about my data, I'm concerned the gov is acting on their best interests or of those of their friends rather than the nation

Like the ventilator deal where a firm (can't remember name will find article in a min) could have supplied enough and was turned down in favour of Dyson .. a job for the boys who has never made a ventilator

Bit like appointing the wife of a Tory MP with no medical or scientific experience to head up T&T. Her main claim to fame in business was getting the sack from Talk Talk after a massive data leak. It didn't help that she couldn't answer whether the stolen data was encrypted or not.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Got any store cards

See my post above . I'm not bothered about data but many are

Bit like appointing the wife of a Tory MP with no medical or scientific experience to head up T&T. Her main claim to fame in business was getting the sack from Talk Talk after a massive data leak. It didn't help that she couldn't answer whether the stolen data was encrypted or not.

Jobs for friends and family .. always the way. That's why the gov is so untrusted

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Bit like appointing the wife of a Tory MP with no medical or scientific experience to head up T&T. Her main claim to fame in business was getting the sack from Talk Talk after a massive data leak. It didn't help that she couldn't answer whether the stolen data was encrypted or not.

How many CEO's have industry specific knowledge and experience?

And Baroness Harding is already chairing NHS Improvement in addition to having extensive experience in business.

 

[rulefan]

How many CEO's have industry specific knowledge and experience?

And Baroness Harding is already chairing NHS Improvement in addition to having extensive experience in business.

I wonder how many on this forum or what proportion of the public have experience of running large organisations.

 

[Old Skier]

I wonder how many on this forum or what proportion of the public have experience of running large organisations.

The good Baroness isn’t one of them as can be seen from her Wilkie entry.

 

[rudebhoy]

The good Baroness isn’t one of them as can be seen from her Wilkie entry.

It's a grim read.

"In October 2015, TalkTalk experienced a 'significant and sustained cyber-attack', during which personal and banking details of up to four million customers were thought to have been accessed.[12] City A.M. described her responses as 'naive', noting that early on when asked if the affected customer data was encrypted or not, she replied: 'The awful truth is that I don't know'. Her 'inflexible line' on termination fees was also criticised.[13] Marketing ran a headline, 'TalkTalk boss Dido Harding's utter ignorance is a lesson to us all'."

"She was appointed chair of NHS Improvement, which is responsible for overseeing all NHS hospitals, comprising foundation trusts and NHS trusts, as well as independent providers of NHS-funded care.[18] Parliament's Health Select Committee, at that time chaired by former Conservative MP Sarah Wollaston, recommended that Dido resign as a Conservative peer and sit as a crossbench peer in order to 'allow for greater parliamentary and public confidence in her ability to challenge government ministers and policies if this role demands it'. Harding did not accept this.[19]"

 

[Deleted member 18588]

It's a grim read.

"In October 2015, TalkTalk experienced a 'significant and sustained cyber-attack', during which personal and banking details of up to four million customers were thought to have been accessed.[12] City A.M. described her responses as 'naive', noting that early on when asked if the affected customer data was encrypted or not, she replied: 'The awful truth is that I don't know'. Her 'inflexible line' on termination fees was also criticised.[13] Marketing ran a headline, 'TalkTalk boss Dido Harding's utter ignorance is a lesson to us all'."

"She was appointed chair of NHS Improvement, which is responsible for overseeing all NHS hospitals, comprising foundation trusts and NHS trusts, as well as independent providers of NHS-funded care.[18] Parliament's Health Select Committee, at that time chaired by former Conservative MP Sarah Wollaston, recommended that Dido resign as a Conservative peer and sit as a crossbench peer in order to 'allow for greater parliamentary and public confidence in her ability to challenge government ministers and policies if this role demands it'. Harding did not accept this.[19]"

Aside from not being properly briefed by her staff at Talk Talk where is the grim reading?

And she resigned something politicians of all sides seem singularly incapable of doing.

 

[Hacker Khan]

It's a grim read.

"In October 2015, TalkTalk experienced a 'significant and sustained cyber-attack', during which personal and banking details of up to four million customers were thought to have been accessed.[12] City A.M. described her responses as 'naive', noting that early on when asked if the affected customer data was encrypted or not, she replied: 'The awful truth is that I don't know'. Her 'inflexible line' on termination fees was also criticised.[13] Marketing ran a headline, 'TalkTalk boss Dido Harding's utter ignorance is a lesson to us all'."

"She was appointed chair of NHS Improvement, which is responsible for overseeing all NHS hospitals, comprising foundation trusts and NHS trusts, as well as independent providers of NHS-funded care.[18] Parliament's Health Select Committee, at that time chaired by former Conservative MP Sarah Wollaston, recommended that Dido resign as a Conservative peer and sit as a crossbench peer in order to 'allow for greater parliamentary and public confidence in her ability to challenge government ministers and policies if this role demands it'. Harding did not accept this.[19]"

I think it's patently clear that competence and ability to do the job is pretty low down on the list of characteristics needed when it comes to government appointments. It's not from Game of Thrones?? Who knew.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

I notice that there's nothing constructive being posted.

Such as who should have been appointed.

Perhaps someone from the Golf Monthly Forum. ?

 

[rudebhoy]

Aside from not being properly briefed by her staff at Talk Talk where is the grim reading?

And she resigned something politicians of all sides seem singularly incapable of doing.

She resigned in Feb 2017, 18 months after the data hack, so not exactly a noble gesture. She also walked away with a £2m payoff.

The grim read comment was a reference to how she was perceived to have performed as CEO of Talk Talk.

 

[drdel]

So what has the Baroness done wrong in her current position?

 

[Deleted member 18588]

She resigned in Feb 2017, 18 months after the data hack, so not exactly a noble gesture. She also walked away with a £2m payoff.

The grim read comment was a reference to how she was perceived to have performed as CEO of Talk Talk.

So it is a grim read due to "how she was perceived to have performed " in one of a number of positions that she has held.

 

[SocketRocket]

So what has the Baroness done wrong in her current position?

Probably:
1. A Tory
2: Breathing

 

[rudebhoy]

So it is a grim read due to "how she was perceived to have performed " in one of a number of positions that she has held.

I did highlight the grim bits - being described as being utterly ignorant is not what you want on your CV, also refusing sound advice from a very influential Tory to become a cross bench peer to show her impartiality displays a lack of judgement.

As for what she has done wrong in her role in charge of T&T, persisting with an app for at least 6 weeks when it was clear to insiders it was doomed to failure is the obvious one, on top of that there have been numerous reports of tracers sitting around watching Netflix because no work was sent to them, one woman said she had made a grand total of 2 phone calls over a number of weeks. The whole picture doesn't exactly breed confidence.

She appears to be consistently out her depth.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

I did highlight the grim bits - being described as being utterly ignorant is not what you want on your CV, also refusing sound advice from a very influential Tory to become a cross bench peer to show her impartiality displays a lack of judgement.

As for what she has done wrong in her role in charge of T&T, persisting with an app for at least 6 weeks when it was clear to insiders it was doomed to failure is the obvious one, on top of that there have been numerous reports of tracers sitting around watching Netflix because no work was sent to them, one woman said she had made a grand total of 2 phone calls over a number of weeks. The whole picture doesn't exactly breed confidence.

She appears to be consistently out her depth.

I don't wish to be rude but it appears to me that you are the one out of your depth in trying to make a judgement that conforms to your overall anti-Government sentiments.

Harding was appointed after the app had been designed and trials were commencing.

It may well have been a case of it proving to be the wrong app but no Chief Exec in the world could come in and decide that on day one.

Indeed, if they did make such a snap decision they would likely alienate the people they are relying upon to produce an effective T & T system.

As for tracers having no calls to make that is surely down to the reduction in infections.

If we are to criticise the Government for a shortage of PPE we cannot subsequently complain if surplus capacity is built in to T&T.

I will criticise and hold to account this Government for errors and shortcomings in dealing with the virus but I will not take it as an opportunity to "have go at 'em" just for the sake of it.

 

[rudebhoy]

I agree that surplus capacity is a good thing, and if all the reported contacts were getting traced and tested, that would be great. however there have been reports that the majority of reported contacts have not been contacted while we have an army of tracers sitting round twiddling their thumbs.

 

[Foxholer]

So what has the Baroness done wrong in her current position?

Probably:
1. A Tory
2: Breathing

Ah, the dedicated Tory Boys are teaming up! Things MUST be dire!