Coronavirus - political views - supporting or otherwise...

[Deleted member 16999]

IMO the steps taken by the Government with respect income and business protection is unique across the world all while keeping the NHS from being over saturated.

I wonder if Labour had won the election whether they would have been as ambitious.

Absolutely irrelevant what Labour would of done.

I could tell you they’d of done twice as much or half as much and it would be pointless.

I thought we kept getting told we should be pulling together in this crisis and not playing party politics.

Or is that only the rule when boris is criticised?

 

[patricks148]

IMO the steps taken by the Government with respect income and business protection is unique across the world all while keeping the NHS from being over saturated.

I wonder if Labour had won the election whether they would have been as ambitious.

lol that has to be the funniest thing i've read on here... you crack me up

 

[Deleted member 16999]

lol that has to be the funniest thing i've read on here... you crack me up

It’s not funny, it’s sad, over 32,000 dead as of today.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

He's not under your bed, he cant hurt you any more, let it go you will feel a great weight lifted. And breathe.

I don’t normally listen, and haven’t for a long time, as I was finding it painful - but have recently on a couple of occasions such as this evening, found myself overrunning from Eddie Mair and actually it’s quite amusing
listening to his smug chortling as he gets angry with the government and his fans wound up. He’s even being quite positive about Labour ?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Fans, you mean the people who tune in and listen.

Nah - the ones who phone in and almost ’to a man’ tell him that they are a great fan of his; how fabulous he is; how grateful they are for all he did towards getting us out of the EU; and often how disgraceful it is he hadn’t been honoured and that they wish he was PM. They are actually fans.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

It’s not funny, it’s sad, over 32,000 dead as of today.

Not to worry - look at the 500,000 deaths we could have had if the government hadn’t made all the right decisions and applied them at the right times. Well that’s what we are told - when that really means is ’if the government had done nothing’. So be it that that is in fact true.

 

[Slab]

Enjoying Farage and his fans on his LBC programme attacking the government for continuing the furlough payments, and not cutting them more strongly. Apparently too many people are having an easy life of it...and so will be reluctant to go back to work. Plus - with no holidays overseas; unable to go to the pub or restaurants; no travel costs going to work etc people are better off!

He still has his fans does Nigel - and some still hoping he'll be the next Prime Minister. Oh yes. He well and truly caught some folks hook, line and sinker over the years. Almost fun listening to him these days - almost

I'm just glad to read that you're enjoying something for a change ??stay well

 

[Slab]

IMO the steps taken by the Government with respect income and business protection is unique across the world all while keeping the NHS from being over saturated.

I wonder if Labour had won the election whether they would have been as ambitious.

Probably not that unique. The gov here have taken some pretty strong economic decisions to pay most of the nations workers
I'm sure the bad news will follow when we find out how it all needs to be funded etc but maybe UK version is only unique in its fine detail rather than unique in supporting income etc. I'd actually imagine most countries on lockdown have probably put strong economic measures in place

 

[patricks148]

It’s not funny, it’s sad, over 32,000 dead as of today.

you are soo right, i wonder id these ambitiouse actions include the 10 years of austerity and cuts to the NHS that left it struggling to cope with the infection?

 

[Swango1980]

Clusters reappearing in Wuhan.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-wuhan-idUSKBN22N24F

How are they going to test 11million in 10 days, that is some processing from get it from the people, to performing the actual lab test.

Come on UK up your game.

Interesting how the many in the British public are quick to dismiss the UK related figures, and find all sorts of reasons why they are inaccurate. But, they are equally quick to believe figures for all other countries. I mean, come on. With a month to go, so many people said the UK had no chance in reaching 100,000 tests. So, is is acceptable to believe Wuhan can to 11 million tests in a week?

 

[drdel]

Absolutely irrelevant what Labour would of done.

I could tell you they’d of done twice as much or half as much and it would be pointless.

I thought we kept getting told we should be pulling together in this crisis and not playing party politics.

Or is that only the rule when boris is criticised?

A political thread where a political view can't posed??

 

[Foxholer]

Advised by whom? Couldn't do what? Warn the public about a life-threatening health hazard? Take action to prevent the spread of a deadly virus before 1000s of us were infected?

Damn right I want a moan! I'm so cranky today....

GIYF!

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Not quite understanding the Rees-Mogg logic that says that MPs - who are currently mostly all working from home (and I haven't noticed any great problem with that for the time being) - should set an example to workers and go back to their place of work in the chamber - well maybe 50 or so in total. When in fact the example MPs can set is to work from home as they can? That said I can actually think of a purely political logic that would make this attractive for the Conservatives and the PM, but it would surely be too cynical.

Had some sympathy Grant Shapps this morning on Today struggling a bit with the some of the rational and contradictions of the recent new guidelines, and essentially having to admit that the cabinet had not seen the new guidance before Johnson recorded his Sunday broadcast.

 

[Hacker Khan]

IMO the steps taken by the Government with respect income and business protection is unique across the world all while keeping the NHS from being over saturated.

I wonder if Labour had won the election whether they would have been as ambitious.

Mmmmm, going from literally every thing ever posted on here about Labour's economic policies by Tory supporters, I'm pretty confident that whatever Labour would have done would have been classed by the Tories as 'economically reckless/printing money/ruining the economy/borrowing too much etc etc'.

And I am desperately trying to gloss over the irony of Tories summising that the amount of money that Labour would have borrowed and pumped into the economy for social support/infrastructure/helping the NHS and general economic stimulus, would have not been as large as the amount the Tories have committed. After the Tories spent the whole of the last election claiming that Labour's borrowing and spending plans on social support/infrastructure/The NHS/social infrastructure was reckless. Oh, is what was previously classed as socialism suddenly a good idea now??? Well done Tories on such a novel and innovative approach....

 

[rudebhoy]

Interesting how the many in the British public are quick to dismiss the UK related figures, and find all sorts of reasons why they are inaccurate. But, they are equally quick to believe figures for all other countries. I mean, come on. With a month to go, so many people said the UK had no chance in reaching 100,000 tests. So, is is acceptable to believe Wuhan can to 11 million tests in a week?

the target that was set by the PM was 100,000 people tested every day from the end of April. It still hasn't been achieved - yesterday's figure was 60.410.

Can Wuhan test 11m people in a week? Seems massively ambitious, I'm guessing they are going to forcibly test everyone. I have as much faith in the stats coming out of China as I do in those coming out of the UK. We are still pretending the total number dead is 32,000 when even the FT is saying it's nearer 55k.

 

[AmandaJR]

the target that was set by the PM was 100,000 people tested every day from the end of April. It still hasn't been achieved - yesterday's figure was 60.410.

Can Wuhan test 11m people in a week? Seems massively ambitious, I'm guessing they are going to forcibly test everyone. I have as much faith in the stats coming out of China as I do in those coming out of the UK. We are still pretending the total number dead is 32,000 when even the FT is saying it's nearer 55k.

60k? Thought it was 85k and according to this link to the slides shown it was...



https://assets.publishing.service.g...5-12_COVID-19_Press_Conference_Slides__7_.pdf

 

[rudebhoy]

60k? Thought it was 85k and according to this link to the slides shown it was...



https://assets.publishing.service.g...5-12_COVID-19_Press_Conference_Slides__7_.pdf

85k is the so-called number of tests, which includes test kits posted out.

if you look here, you will see the actual number of people tested was 60k.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public

Johnson's pledge on 5th April was to test 100k people every day from the end of the month.

 

[pendodave]

the target that was set by the PM was 100,000 people tested every day from the end of April. It still hasn't been achieved - yesterday's figure was 60.410.

Can Wuhan test 11m people in a week? Seems massively ambitious, I'm guessing they are going to forcibly test everyone. I have as much faith in the stats coming out of China as I do in those coming out of the UK. We are still pretending the total number dead is 32,000 when even the FT is saying it's nearer 55k.

Back of a fag paper, but 11m tests in a week would require 1000 test centres doing 1 test a minute for 24hrs a day.
Or a lot of very busy postmen...

 

[Wolf]

Back of a fag paper, but 11m tests in a week would require 1000 test centres doing 1 test a minute for 24hrs a day.
Or a lot of very busy postmen...

Or in China it could be done as quickly as someone signing off saying they have done it and filed away with the world then being told only what China decides to tell it.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

A political thread where a political view can't posed??

Because it’s absolute tosh! Its fairy land stuff and your very first post in this thread agreed with a poster saying enquiries etc in to the Government handling of this crisis should be left till afterwards! I didn’t realise it was beaten yesterday.