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And that is the point. The student is saying that using teachers' grades would have been wrong.
But if used for uni entry, the unis would have been overwhelmed.
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But if used for uni entry, the unis would have been overwhelmed.
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There's no good way to decide grades in the absence of exams this year but I'd take the teacher's professional judgement over a computer program every time, even with this valid concern.
And, under the circumstances, I'd err on the side of over rather than under estimating grades. The kids leaving school this year are going to be badly affected by this either way, I'd prefer to help them as much as possible.
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It's not what she's saying at all. Here's the quote in context
"What do you think of the decision to get teachers to grade your A-Levels?
I’m mostly in agreement with the policy. It would have been unfair to give everyone their predicted grades because a lot of schools inflate them, which would put our school at a disadvantage because many departments under-predict more than anything else."
So she's in favour of teachers setting the grades. It's confusing in the current context because we think that is the predicted grades, but it would seem that's not what they were talking about in April/May when the article was written.
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I have read that piece and it is certainly long on data.
However, the authors' conclusions seem to be based upon nothing more than their assumptions and opinions.
I am pretty sure that you would not be happy if such "research" was relied upon in the medical sector.
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I'd agree. Neither is ideal. Perhaps having later exams in September would have been the best option, although hindsight and all that.
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Kids given over inflated grades will struggle on their courses.
An independent method /algorithm is about the only objective approach
An independent method /algorithm is about the only objective approach
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The other coronavirus thing I'm struggling with today is announcing arrivals from France will need to quarantine and giving people 24 hours (or whatever) notice to get back to avoid having to quarantine.
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Johnson and his crew were going to be known as the Brexit Government - but that's been a bit overtaken by the pandemic and so this could be the Covid Government. But that's no good as Brexit was supposed to be this government's crowning achievement - so maybe they will be known in perpetuity as the Coxit Government...
There was a woman on tv this morning, beaming as she just beat the deadline. She was extra happy as later today she was going out with friends followed by seeing family she hadn't seen for months. Within the next few days she was going to visit her grandparents. She really didn't see any problem in what she was doing.
I don't think the govt should have announced any leeway. If there was a problem with France then bring in the quarantine immediately. How can someone arriving at 3am this morning be safer than someone arriving at 5am this morning?
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I was rather hoping for a 2020 version of Dunkirk!
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It is not "research" but "analysis" and the main news is on the front page:
With more than 15 entrants in a given subject, Ofqual applied a moderation process that awarded grades based on schools’ and colleges’ historical performance.
In cases where five or fewer students from a particular establishment entered a subject, the grades proposed by their teachers (centre assessment grades) were used to award results. These were typically higher than the grades that the moderation process generated.
And for between five and 15 students a combination of the two approaches was used.
The schools with smaller class sizes didn't use moderation, or for intermediate sizes, use it to the same degree. That introduced a bias, because moderation tended to drive down grades whereas teacher assessment without moderation may have inflated them. You don't need to read any further.
Just to be clear, prospectively the Govt approach was not unreasonable, using actual data with an attempt to adjust historically, but now it seems that this has introduced a bias. this needs to be fixed. The appeal process won't do that. The net effect of the grades awarded by teacher assessment will be to make more than expected from that population eligible for Uni. That therefore inevitably means fewer places for the rest unless HMG expands Uni places.
Now, since you are so concerned with how this would be done in the medical sector, by which I assume you mean in clinical trials, so the answer to that is that if a bias is discovered in a data set for a new medicine seeking approval, then it will have to be dealt with by either additional statistical adjustment or additional data acquisition of the drug will not be approved.
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Yip. Anyone travelling abroad in the last few weeks knew this was a possibility.
True, but whilst the government (FCO) won’t blanket ban travel as they did during initial lockdown anyone with a holiday booked wont be covered by their insurance and will lose their money.
yes I know there are more important things, but if the government say it’s ok. Then they’ll go.
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Our witless Transport Minister could not even understand the details of his own departments instructions.
Lions led by Donkeys.com.
Lions led by Donkeys.com.
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Is that because the Scottish minister followed the UK government
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As someone who left before exams became vogue I always felt it rather sad that we continue to con the younger generation into thinking that exams are the bee all and end all of life and everyone should be going to university.
There also seemed to be a lot of college principals stepping up complaining about this years exam results, could it be more to do with the fact that most of them are on performance related pay.
It was also reported by the BBC at the start of the exams fiasco that 40% of schools that normally are amongst the poorest performing group all of a sudden have had a miraculous recovery in the grades issued by the teaching profession. Students have also been interviewed who have been given their university places on the requested course but still complain about the results they have been given even though when they pass their degree it will be irrelevant.
There also seemed to be a lot of college principals stepping up complaining about this years exam results, could it be more to do with the fact that most of them are on performance related pay.
It was also reported by the BBC at the start of the exams fiasco that 40% of schools that normally are amongst the poorest performing group all of a sudden have had a miraculous recovery in the grades issued by the teaching profession. Students have also been interviewed who have been given their university places on the requested course but still complain about the results they have been given even though when they pass their degree it will be irrelevant.
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True, it's all a bit of a mess.
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Just on that last point. It's very true but we only come to appreciate that when we look back. When you're just leaving school your exam results seem all important.
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Being reported, but it is the Mail, that the Scottish First Minister insisted on the timing even though the Welsh and UK Government wanted longer
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If true, credit where it's due, good for her.
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