Clubs still in the Dark Ages

triple_bogey said:
Its no different from groups of guys after their rounds chatting, laughing loudly. I've come across many of these loud groups, and personally it makes a great lively atmostphere instead of a funeral parlour.
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Sorry but a big difference. It's the difference in being sociable. The difference in being involved. Being there, being part of it. Having a conversation on your mobile in the middle of the clubhouse is waayyy different to having an interactive, personal, face to face discussion as part of a group.
 
dufferman said:
Did he find a 'young' crowd joining there? It seems that a lot of the clubs I have visited to play all seem to have members over the age of 45 which, with no disrespect to the older golfer, isn't quite what I'm looking for! Hillingdon did seem to give the impression of a much older group of people there. A few of my neighbors are members there, they are all over the age of 60!!
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This interesting. My club has a strong junior membership, but there is a notable gap between say 22 and 35 where people disappear and find other priorities. I've not come across a club yet that has large numbers in this age group.

The Saturday swindle I play in has up to 80 people on the books, ages ranging from 20 to 80. It is this diversity that makes it interesting.

Most golf clubs are the same. Mixing all the ages up is fun. They all have stories to tell, and that's part of being a member of a club.
 
GreiginFife said:
Sorry but a big difference. It's the difference in being sociable. The difference in being involved. Being there, being part of it. Having a conversation on your mobile in the middle of the clubhouse is waayyy different to having an interactive, personal, face to face discussion as part of a group.
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But WHY does it affect you in any way??? Lets say there is a group of guys and one is wearing a bluetooth earset out of your eyesight, and he's chatting on the phone. Would you think any less of the guy?? Makes no difference.

You are telling me, someone on a quick call for a couple of minutes has to be judged as rude and antisocial??
 
dufferman said:
Did he find a 'young' crowd joining there? It seems that a lot of the clubs I have visited to play all seem to have members over the age of 45 which, with no disrespect to the older golfer, isn't quite what I'm looking for! Hillingdon did seem to give the impression of a much older group of people there. A few of my neighbors are members there, they are all over the age of 60!!
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In his 'regular' group all the guys were of 'working age' but he didn't mind playing in comps with the 'older' group as they, in his experience, were good company [including the club captain]... Pro wasn't his cup of tea but he didn't see that as an issue... Perhaps as he got to know him better his view may have altered...
 
murphthemog said:
The Saturday swindle I play in has up to 80 people on the books, ages ranging from 20 to 80. It is this diversity that makes it interesting.

Most golf clubs are the same. Mixing all the ages up is fun. They all have stories to tell, and that's part of being a member of a club.
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I agree with you & Steve - and like I said, I'm trying to offend anyone. My 'usual' 4 ball most Saturday's consists of me, a 50 year old, a 32 year old and a 77 year old.

Maybe that's why I'm interested in finding some younger guys at a club!!

And my god, if I can still do 18 holes TWICE a week at 77, I'd be very pleased!
 
dufferman said:
I agree with you & Steve - and like I said, I'm trying to offend anyone. My 'usual' 4 ball most Saturday's consists of me, a 50 year old, a 32 year old and a 77 year old.

Maybe that's why I'm interested in finding some younger guys at a club!!

And my god, if I can still do 18 holes TWICE a week at 77, I'd be very pleased!
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I'm 60 in a few months and this week (8 days) I have played Sunday, Monday, Wednesday, this Saturday and Sunday. 5 games in 8 days with 2 new hips - better than many kids manage!
 
triple_bogey said:
But WHY does it affect you in any way??? Lets say there is a group of guys and one is wearing a bluetooth earset out of your eyesight, and he's chatting on the phone. Would you think any less of the guy?? Makes no difference.

You are telling me, someone on a quick call for a couple of minutes has to be judged as rude and antisocial??
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How long before a "quick call" as a one-off (which is subjective) gradually descends in to just whenever you feel like it for what ever reason. I have seen rules on things relaxed in the past and its not long before people are kicking the arse out of it.
To answer your question, anyone I see in a group of people who are having a conversation and are on their phone whilst still sitting in the group is rude and antisocial for that duration IMO. Maybe I was just brought up with different values, maybe I ain't "hip" or "down with the kids" but at that's my cultural belief.
 
GreiginFife said:
How long before a "quick call" as a one-off (which is subjective) gradually descends in to just whenever you feel like it for what ever reason. I have seen rules on things relaxed in the past and its not long before people are kicking the arse out of it.
To answer your question, anyone I see in a group of people who are having a conversation and are on their phone whilst still sitting in the group is rude and antisocial for that duration IMO. Maybe I was just brought up with different values, maybe I ain't "hip" or "down with the kids" but at that's my cultural belief.
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@GreiginFife - I'm 100% in agreement with your sentiments - every word.
 
a scary thread - how it focused on mobile 'phones is a bit of a surprise but then again the OP lit the blue touch paper and left the building..........maybe he should clarify what he believes constitutes 'dark ages'?

as to mobile phones - I believe that there is as much validity to the argument that clubs that ban them in the clubhouse are the enlightened ones as the other way round; it's a matter of choice by the membership that others should respect.

what I do find slightly annoying is that there is anything vaguely relevant in the age of groups in the issue of technology etc who the **** do you think built the internet, mobile phones. eCommerce infrastructures etc - clue: it wasn't today's 25 year old. There are as many 40/50/60 year old golfers with smartphones, major social network presences (increasingly hidden), and relatively complex wired/wireless multiple device sync'd calendar structures etc that we choose to 'switch off' within the environment of the golf clubhouse is a personal choice - not a function of living in the 19th century.

There are elements that would suggest that a club is living in the dark ages, and it's a shame that some retain these; mobile phone rules are nothing to do with it IMO
 
In the US it's common for people to sit at the bar after their game wearing their hat if they wish with a pair of flip flops on there feet with no socks You'd be burned at the stake in most clubs here for that.
 
MegaSteve said:
In his 'regular' group all the guys were of 'working age' but he didn't mind playing in comps with the 'older' group as they, in his experience, were good company [including the club captain]... Pro wasn't his cup of tea but he didn't see that as an issue... Perhaps as he got to know him better his view may have altered...
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The pro at hgc is the best thing going for it, by far. He is a great coach, a very nice guy, and is also the general manager. A nicer, harder working, easier going guy you couldn't meet. He is my one regret with leaving the club, as I would really have enjoyed working with him.
 
I really have to laugh at the younger guys on here going on about 'the old codgers'. I play regularly with 3 'old codgers' at my club, one is 59 and plays off 3, one is 66 and plays off 1 and the other is 76 and plays off 4 and my course is one tough track!. So as well as being able to teach me loads on the course they are all great company that you can have a really good laugh and p**s take with.
 
Valentino said:
In the US it's common for people to sit at the bar after their game wearing their hat if they wish with a pair of flip flops on there feet with no socks You'd be burned at the stake in most clubs here for that.
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The yanks seem to wear hats/caps everywhere, commonplace to see them wearing hats in the clubhouse, bars, restaurants....everywhere!
Although, I don't have a problem with sandals or flip flops, I do that myself when playing out there.
 
Clubs are made up of people who decide what rules they want. If they don't like it, there's the AGM to use to change the rules. It continues to amaze me how many people 'blame' a club for a rule they don't like when in truth its the majority of members who've decided what rules they want.

Perhaps looking at it from a different perspective would be to self reflect that 'its me' that's selfish for wanting to change what so many people are happy to accept... just an off the cuff thought...
 
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