Cancelling SKY

Unless I've missed something, I can't understand why nobody has mentioned one of those android boxes.
I haven't got one, have got sky at present, but everyone I talk to swears by them. You get all sky channels, sports, movies, golf channel and lots more for a simple purchase of the box so why are not more people doing this.
 
Jensen said:
Unless I've missed something, I can't understand why nobody has mentioned one of those android boxes.
I haven't got one, have got sky at present, but everyone I talk to swears by them. You get all sky channels, sports, movies, golf channel and lots more for a simple purchase of the box so why are not more people doing this.
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Legal platforms still require payment for most Sky channels. You might be referring to illegal streams that you can get through various means.
 
sawtooth said:
Legal platforms still require payment for most Sky channels. You might be referring to illegal streams that you can get through various means.
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Yes that's the one I'm referring to, they seem to be very popular and the streams are better now days.
The issue I have with sky, which I've had for 21 years, is how disproportionate their cost is compared to other services now.
Android illegal streaming seems the way to go.
Anyhow how is it illegal when it's streamed, the legal issue lies with the streamer and not receiver or so I thought
 
Jensen said:
Yes that's the one I'm referring to, they seem to be very popular and the streams are better now days.
The issue I have with sky, which I've had for 21 years, is how disproportionate their cost is compared to other services now.
Android illegal streaming seems the way to go.
Anyhow how is it illegal when it's streamed, the legal issue lies with the streamer and not receiver or so I thought
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It's illegal to watch subscription content without you having to pay for it
 
sawtooth said:
After cancelling and waiting I got a call from Sky.

I'm now staying with them after being getting a very good deal, it begs the question why they are charging so much to begin with, but happier now.

Pretty much twice the Sky for half the money. Lovely Jubbly.
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Must get my Mrs to make her regular 'we want to cancel' call to Sky and see what they come up with this time.
 
bluewolf said:
But, watching at home, via an Android box is neither of the options listed.. So, is it illegal to watch Sky channels via the box?
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So do you not stream on an android box then ?

Yes it is illegal to watch the sky channels if you haven't paid for them

"However, it is against the law to use boxes to watch certain copyrighted material for free, such as pay-per-view subscription TV provided by the likes of Sky and Virgin Media.
"
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/set-top-tv-boxes-illegal-everything-9434317
 
Liverpoolphil said:
So do you not stream on an android box then ?

Yes it is illegal to watch the sky channels if you haven't paid for them

"However, it is against the law to use boxes to watch certain copyrighted material for free, such as pay-per-view subscription TV provided by the likes of Sky and Virgin Media.
"
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/set-top-tv-boxes-illegal-everything-9434317
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A complex issue obviously......

In Europe, the Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU) has ruled that it is legal to look at content (copyrighted or otherwise) online. The ruling relates to the British Meltwater case settled on 5 June 2014.
The judgement of the court states that: "Article 5 of Directive 2001/29/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 22 May 2001 on the harmonisation of certain aspects of copyright and related rights in the information society must be interpreted as meaning that the copies on the user’s computer screen and the copies in the internet ‘cache’ of that computer’s hard disk, made by an end-user in the course of viewing a website, satisfy the conditions that those copies must be temporary, that they must be transient or incidental in nature and that they must constitute an integral and essential part of a technological process, as well as the conditions laid down in Article 5(5) of that directive, and that they may therefore be made without the authorisation of the copyright holders."
 
bluewolf said:
A complex issue obviously......

In Europe, the Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU) has ruled that it is legal to look at content (copyrighted or otherwise) online. The ruling relates to the British Meltwater case settled on 5 June 2014.
The judgement of the court states that: "Article 5 of Directive 2001/29/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 22 May 2001 on the harmonisation of certain aspects of copyright and related rights in the information society must be interpreted as meaning that the copies on the user’s computer screen and the copies in the internet ‘cache’ of that computer’s hard disk, made by an end-user in the course of viewing a website, satisfy the conditions that those copies must be temporary, that they must be transient or incidental in nature and that they must constitute an integral and essential part of a technological process, as well as the conditions laid down in Article 5(5) of that directive, and that they may therefore be made without the authorisation of the copyright holders."
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http://www.twobirds.com/en/news/art...-is-saved-browsing-does-not-require-a-licence

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pub..._(PRCA)_v_The_Newspaper_Licensing_Agency_(NLA)

The ruling allowed people to read and save browsed information normally available in copyright newspaper

Nowhere in any ruling does it say it's legal to by pass subscription television and film to watch it for free

Fact have all the information required

If the watching of Sky without paying for it was deemed "legal" then would expect to see a lot of court action


http://www.fact-uk.org.uk/types-of-content-theft/
 
Jensen said:
I'd imagine it would be highly unlikely to get caught just watching it in my own house. That would be a nightmare to police, right ?
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No different to doing 31 in a 30😃
 
Find it annoying that Sky, utilities etc keep ramping the costs up and yet when you phone to cancel there's often a huge margin to be negotiated with to give the customer a better deal. While don't they do this as a matter of right? I don't suppose they have to inform you of the best deals at any time which makes it all seem so wrong
 
HomerJSimpson said:
Find it annoying that Sky, utilities etc keep ramping the costs up and yet when you phone to cancel there's often a huge margin to be negotiated with to give the customer a better deal. While don't they do this as a matter of right? I don't suppose they have to inform you of the best deals at any time which makes it all seem so wrong
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I guess there are too many mugs like me paying top dollar for Sky so why would they go out and tell people proactively about 60% discount deals?

They assume the majority will carry on paying the full price quite happily which is wrong I agree but it would hurt their business too much.
 
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