Can you be too keen on the rules ?

[John Evans 9]

I’ve been told about this curious incident in our Dad’s Army section. They play singles stableford for a couple of quid in the pot and also a four ball match for the same. Not a qualifying competition so no problem with the simultaneous play of differing formats. For the match, players A and B are partnered together H’cp 10 and 32. B claims 22 strokes in the match but player C insists that A receive only 90% of 22 = 20 strokes. In failing to agree matters became heated and C was told he was being over-zealous in applying the rules and no one was forcing him to play. C stormed off and has not been seen since. Why does common sense sometimes seem to be missing from seniors golf ? Was player C really in the wrong ?

 

[HampshireHog]

I’ve been told about this curious incident in our Dad’s Army section. They play singles stableford for a couple of quid in the pot and also a four ball match for the same. Not a qualifying competition so no problem with the simultaneous play of differing formats. For the match, players A and B are partnered together H’cp 10 and 32. B claims 22 strokes in the match but player C insists that A receive only 90% of 22 = 20 strokes. In failing to agree matters became heated and C was told he was being over-zealous in applying the rules and no one was forcing him to play. C stormed off and has not been seen since. Why does common sense sometimes seem to be missing from seniors golf ? Was player C really in the wrong ?

Technical C is right. But as a group can choose to do whatever they like outside of an official competition they should have gone along with the groups agreed format.

 

[Orikoru]

Didn't anyone propose they split the difference and call it 21 shots??

 

[Deleted member 29109]

Didn't anyone propose they split the difference and call it 21 shots??

You forgot that many seniors play golf for the sole purpose of having something to be annoyed about.

Your suggestion would require a small does of common sense to be applied. Something often difficult to find when required.

 

[sunshine]

Can you be too keen on the rules ?
Yes. Every club has a rules zealot.

I played in a comp with strangers a few years ago and on the 1st hole I asked what one of the group did for a living. When he said he worked in health and safety I knew I was in for a long and painful round...

 

[John Evans 9]

You forgot that many seniors play golf for the sole purpose of having something to be annoyed about.

Your suggestion would require a small does of common sense to be applied. Something often difficult to find when required.

I think you’ve hit the nail on the head.

 

[Deleted member 1147]

Surely the mighty WHS has sorted all these issues,...no?

 

[clubchamp98]

You forgot that many seniors play golf for the sole purpose of having something to be annoyed about.

Your suggestion would require a small does of common sense to be applied. Something often difficult to find when required.

There is no common sense when money is involved!

 

[rulefan]

Your suggestion would require a small does of common sense to be applied. Something often difficult to find when required.

Common sense is not very common and often not even sensible

 

[clubchamp98]

Surely the mighty WHS has sorted all these issues,...no?

It’s made it worse.
Pre you played of 0-28.
Now you can be three shots worse better off depending where your playing.

 

[rulefan]

It’s made it worse.
Pre you played of 0-28.
Now you can be three shots worse better off depending where your playing.

54 predated WHS

 

[Funt1m3]

I get it, in the words of Monica Gellar “rules help control the fun” but sone people do go over the top outside of a competition. Be a damn sight easier if there were only 10 or so and not 100

Plus I do feel the older our group becomes the more of a stickler for the rules we become. Maybe it’s nature and we all end up storming off for the sake of 20, no 22, no 20, no 22, no, arrrgh I quit

 

[clubchamp98]

54 predated WHS

I never met any male golfers over 28 cap in the 30 yrs I played under old system.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I’ve been told about this curious incident in our Dad’s Army section. They play singles stableford for a couple of quid in the pot and also a four ball match for the same. Not a qualifying competition so no problem with the simultaneous play of differing formats. For the match, players A and B are partnered together H’cp 10 and 32. B claims 22 strokes in the match but player C insists that A receive only 90% of 22 = 20 strokes. In failing to agree matters became heated and C was told he was being over-zealous in applying the rules and no one was forcing him to play. C stormed off and has not been seen since. Why does common sense sometimes seem to be missing from seniors golf ? Was player C really in the wrong ?

My Saturday Rollup does the same and it does my head in when every time we are standing on the tee I find myself having to ask the same questions when working out strokes received in the 4BBB.

It’s not difficult to know your singles s/f PH and your 4BBB PH. It really, really isn’t. We can all divide by ten; we can all divide by two; and we can all add two numbers together; we can all difference two numbers.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I run the Saturday roll up where we have cuts for first and second for the players next three games. Two shots for winning and one for second. I simply send a Whatsapp and emall to our group addresses on the Friday to let people know what they are off (depending on whether we go off whites or yellows) and how many weeks they have left. Makes checking the cards easy and everyone knows where they stand. Saves any arguments

 

[Voyager EMH]

I’ve been told about this curious incident in our Dad’s Army section. They play singles stableford for a couple of quid in the pot and also a four ball match for the same. Not a qualifying competition so no problem with the simultaneous play of differing formats. For the match, players A and B are partnered together H’cp 10 and 32. B claims 22 strokes in the match but player C insists that A receive only 90% of 22 = 20 strokes. In failing to agree matters became heated and C was told he was being over-zealous in applying the rules and no one was forcing him to play. C stormed off and has not been seen since. Why does common sense sometimes seem to be missing from seniors golf ? Was player C really in the wrong ?

In the singles stableford all players should have playing handicaps that are 95% of course handicap.
In the 4B match all players should have playing handicaps that are 90% of course handicap. Shots given and received in this match are the full difference between playing handicaps.

"90% of the difference" no longer exists.

We have plenty of player type C at our club - if you know what I mean.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

In failing to agree matters became heated and C was told he was being over-zealous in applying the rules and no one was forcing him to play. C stormed off and has not been seen since. Why does common sense sometimes seem to be missing from seniors golf ? Was player C really in the wrong ?

Surely all player C has done with his hissy fit is cut off his nose to spite his face. Every one else has carried on with his golf and he's missing out. If someone stormed off like that at my club, and then returned he'd get the mickey taken out big time. Our roll up lot at the weekend can be tough and sometimes you need rhino skin although we all know (99% of the time) where the line is for each person

 

[Tashyboy]

Could someone explain why we now have WHS. IT is supposed to make scoring fairer. But then we have 95% and 90% of your handicap on your own Course. ? Why?

 

[Rlburnside]

Could someone explain why we now have WHS. IT is supposed to make scoring fairer. But then we have 95% and 90% of your handicap on your own Course. ? Why?

My understanding was they introduced 95% after studying thousands of rounds and deemed 95% was fairer for low h/cs

 

[2blue]

I never met any male golfers over 28 cap in the 30 yrs I played under old system.

Maybe so..... However, met loads who should have been!!