Bunkers and ponds

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I've just counted how many bunkers and ponds we have at my course.
20 in total at the front or side of the greens and 0 at the back.
Does your course have any trouble JUST OFF THE BACK of your greens?
 
OOB on a few holes but not alot else. Mind you, only 11 bunkers on the whole course so hardly surprising.

General rule on my course is that if you are short or left on most holes you can stay out of trouble.
 
we have 9 holes with trouble of some sort or other off the back but none have bunkers just combinations of shrubbery, trees, ditches, lakes and the river.
On 4 or 5 of these it's hardly worth looking, just get another one. In winter with water and leaves in the ditches this rises to 7 of the 9.
 
Half of our greens are protected by large drop off, OOB, walls, bushes etc within a couple of feet of the back fringe.

We only have 3 bunkers on the course which go further back than the middle of the green.

Our only water is no more than a dew pond and isn't (really) in play.
 
OOB on 2 holes & a pond on another hole.
There are also alot of holes with steep drops or banks behind greens.
But no bunkers behind greens.
 
We have 8 holes with trees, shrubs or deep rough close behind the green but none with bunkers or ponds at the back. Generally a course where, provided you are straight, short is better than long as, except for the par 3's, all the approaches to the greens are open at the front.
 
OOB only 10 yards behind the 12th and a ditch literally behind the 10th. Other than that most trouble is short for approach shots into the greens.

We have a ditch to carry on the 2nd off the tee, an environmental to go over off the 3rd tee. There is a ditch in play on the 7th and for the long hitters on 9. On 12 you have a row of trees to hit over off the tee and on 18 the environmental area is in play off the tee and a ditch waits at about 260.
 
We have no real trouble JUST over the back of the green but plenty if you're a club or 2 long, say playing with the wind. I reckon 16 of our holes you're in big trouble if you're 10-15 yards over the back. BUt as most people come up short its not an issue.
 
I think that courses for amateurs need little behind as hazards because invaribly they will underclub and approach from short of the flag. Its only the thinned wedge that gets past the flag.
My course has o/b five yards to the right of the fairway all the way down the first hole until 25 yards short of the green. Many courses where the first is a card wrecker?
 
Our first is 228 off the whites. OB about 30 yards right. Pond short and left, two bunkers (one either side) by the green and a line of trees cutting in 40yards short. And it usually plays into the wind and is SI10. I've had everything from a 2 to an 8 and one of our decent golfers (off about 12) had a 13
 
Our course doesn't really fit the old saying that "all the trouble is generally at the front so club up on approach".
2nd, deep rough about 10 yards
3rd, deep rough 5 or 6 yards
6th OB fence 6 or 7 yards
7th rough then OB within 10
8th OB fence within 5 or 6 yards
9th OB about 8 yards
11th OB about 7 yards
13th OB about 10 yards
53 bunkers in total with none at back, 3 ponds, several holes with dykes across fairways but all the trouble at back of greens is due to course boundaries rather than artificial hazards etc.
 
Our course has 90% of the trouble short and still I find myself trying to eek a few extra yards of carry from my gap wedge when I could have just gone down a little on my PW!

If all the trouble was long I bet I would try and cosy up the PW rather than bump it onto the front...

Stupid game
 
Its probably our courses strength for most of the holes....
Our course has trouble at the back of 13 of the holes....As well as that our
1st par 4.. 2 bunkers either side and trouble 10 yards off the back(high grass)

2nd 158 mtrs over a lake to a2 tier green protected by 2 bunkers

3rd par 4 protected by bunkjers either side and bushes at the back.

4th par 3 168 mtrs.... protected by bunkers either side with trouble at the back

5th par 5 protected by 2 bunkers trouble at the back

6th par 5 protected by 2 bunkers and very long grass over the back

7th relitely long par 4 with a 2 tier green trouble at the back and sides no bunkers...

8th 135 mtr par 3 to a 2 tier green off a raised tee (approx 60mtrs above the hole) over a lake protected by 2 bunkers and trouble all up the left and 10 yards off the back

9th (index 1) par 4 with 2 lakes to carry and protected by 2 bunkers

10th dogleg right par 4 with 1 lake to carry off the tee to the dog leg and another lake to carry to a raised 2 tier green protected by 2 bunkers.

11th par 4 slight dogleg right 2 tier green again protected by 2 bunkers

12th par 5 fairly straight with a large green with trouble at the sides and back. a big undulating green...airmail the green and forget it

13th 197mtr par 3 with a 2 tier green and a lake to carry and protected by 3 bunkers

14th par 4 very narrow 2 tier green protected by 2 bunkers and trouble at the back

15th par 4 with a 2 tier green protected by 2 bunkers with trouble at the back

16th par 5 reachable in 2 with a good drive but protected by 3 bunkers with a 3 tier green and trouble out the back and side.

17th par 3. 168 mtrs off a raised tee over a lake to a 2 tier green protected by 2 bunkers and trouble on 3 sides.

18th fairly straight patr 4 protected by 2 bunkers, OOB down the right and trouble at the back.

Thats 32 bunkers
10 lakes
and lots of tree's and cabbage!
Our course Ladies and Gentlemen
Sorry for the drawn out post
 
Let me think.

Bunker long on 2nd. Fence on 4th. Stream on 6th. Hedge on 8th. Clubhouse on 9 (no s*** Dave?!) Pond on 16th. Valley of death on 17th.

Not too bad. But mostly we're talking overclubbing by two.

As I tend to take more than needed, not less, I have visited some of these spots and OOB on the 8th too many times.
 
Valley of death certainly sounds more intimidating than the valley of sin. In fact the valley of sin sounds like a good place to go!
 
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