Bristol

[stefanovic]

Never have I thought it would be better if I boycotted the bible. Reading comments like that, people will ignore the posters posts and they may well have something interesting to read. Others will go the other way and argue. None of which is good for the forum.

You can't ignore the fact that the Bible gave a licence to slavery and preachers in Bristol made money out of it.
Imagine those poor sick looking people being loaded off one ship then taken in chains to another for a voyage that might kill them.
Those that did survive were probably worked to death.
Raise the question as to why the statue was not removed by Bristol council before it was by protesters.

 

[Tashyboy]

You can't ignore the fact that the Bible gave a licence to slavery and preachers in Bristol made money out of it.
Imagine those poor sick looking people being loaded off one ship then taken in chains to another for a voyage that might kill them.
Those that did survive were probably worked to death.
Raise the question as to why the statue was not removed by Bristol council before it was by protesters.

May I suggest you start a topic on slavery instead of trying to railroad another topic with rammel.

 

[SocketRocket]

You can't ignore the fact that the Bible gave a licence to slavery and preachers in Bristol made money out of it.
Imagine those poor sick looking people being loaded off one ship then taken in chains to another for a voyage that might kill them.
Those that did survive were probably worked to death.
Raise the question as to why the statue was not removed by Bristol council before it was by protesters.

If by that you believe slaves were transported to the UK (Bristol) then loaded onto another ship to the Americas then your history is somewhat poor.

 

[D-S]

If by that you believe slaves were transported to the UK (Bristol) then loaded onto another ship to the Americas then your history is somewhat poor.

I think from his previous replies we already know that his knowledge of history is rather poor.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

If by that you believe slaves were transported to the UK (Bristol) then loaded onto another ship to the Americas then your history is somewhat poor.

Quite…see the slave triangle - something I learnt about in a 1st or 2nd year school history class.

 

[stefanovic]

Quote: 'In 1750 alone, Bristol ships transported some 8,000 of the 20,000 enslaved Africans sent that year to the British Caribbean and North America. By the latter half of the century, Bristol's position had been overtaken by Liverpool.'
So does that mean Bristol ships never visited their own harbour with slaves on board?

Even into the 1960's the colour bar was an issue.
Bristol Bus Boycott - Wikipedia

More recently.
Bristol equality group condemns racist attack on mayor - BBC News

 

[Tashyboy]

Not since the OP went on June 25th. ?

 

[D-S]

Quote: 'In 1750 alone, Bristol ships transported some 8,000 of the 20,000 enslaved Africans sent that year to the British Caribbean and North America. By the latter half of the century, Bristol's position had been overtaken by Liverpool.'
So does that mean Bristol ships never visited their own harbour with slaves on board?

Seems like Geography as well as History might need some work.

 

[SocketRocket]

Quote: 'In 1750 alone, Bristol ships transported some 8,000 of the 20,000 enslaved Africans sent that year to the British Caribbean and North America. By the latter half of the century, Bristol's position had been overtaken by Liverpool.'
So does that mean Bristol ships never visited their own harbour with slaves on board?

Even into the 1960's the colour bar was an issue.
Bristol Bus Boycott - Wikipedia

More recently.
Bristol equality group condemns racist attack on mayor - BBC News

You're all over the place trying to dig yourself out of a hole.

Slave ships never brought slaves from Africa to Bristol, think about it, it would add over a thousand mile's to the journey.

What point are you trying to make, people living in Bristol now have nothing to do with what happened 300 years ago. If you want to get historical then the Vikings were slave traders, would you make the same comments to the modern peoples of Denmark, Sweden and Norway. How about the Romans, Irish, Welsh, Dutch, Spanish, Portuguese. History is to learn from not to drag into the present.

 

[stefanovic]

Slave ships never brought slaves from Africa to Bristol, think about it, it would add over a thousand mile's to the journey.

Many were bound for New York, so they would have needed a stopover.

What point are you trying to make, people living in Bristol now have nothing to do with what happened 300 years ago.

Then why was the Colston statue was not removed until recently?

If you want to get historical then the Vikings were slave traders, would you make the same comments to the modern peoples of Denmark, Sweden and Norway. How about the Romans, Irish, Welsh, Dutch, Spanish, Portuguese.

Origin of the word slave. Slavs.

History is to learn from not to drag into the present.

Contradiction.

 

[Patster1969]

Wrong. We need to boycott the Bible which supported the idea of taking servants and slaves.
Only by the better angels of our nature did we eventually realise it was all wrong.

Here is a guide to Bristol's heritage: https://historicengland.org.uk/rese...plantation-wealth/bristol-and-the-south-west/

Sugar, cotton, tobacco was cut by slaves. Bristol became the centre for tobacco products.
Had this not happened it would just be a small town near the Bristol Channel.

If it ended up being a small town, it likely wouldn't have had the Channel named after it though?

 

[D-S]

If it ended up being a small town, it likely wouldn't have had the Channel named after it though?

Also it was already a city in 1542 over a century before the slave trade made some merchants wealthy from the trade.

 

[Tashyboy]

Also it was already a city in 1542 over a century before the slave trade made some merchants wealthy from the trade.

Don’t you know this is a forum for opinions, not facts ?

 

[patricks148]

Can we have this thread back on track with the OP.

Thanks

 

[SocketRocket]

Many were bound for New York, so they would have needed a stopover.

Then why was the Colston statue was not removed until recently?

Origin of the word slave. Slavs.

Contradiction.

A stop over in Bristol on the way to New York ?

It was a statue not a real person ?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

The Cori Tap is worth a visit for a nice pint of scrumpy.

 

[SocketRocket]

The Cori Tap is worth a visit for a nice pint of scrumpy.

It was one of my favourite pubs in the 1960s. Driver distance from the Clifton Suspension Bridge. Only three draughts then, all straight out the wooden casks, Rough Cider, Sweet Cider or Bitter. You could have a pint of mixed , half rough and half sweet.