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Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

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drdel said:
Weird question as the two scenarios are not mutually dependent...

Because the UK has the capacity to maintain a stable economy without an increasing dependence on debt and is better off without the drag on international trade/finance caused by the EU and the waste caused by the undemocratic 'centre'. The EU's debt is rising at a quicker rate than it's growth, yet the 'centre's budget has planned increase well ahead of growth. the EU's aim is for more Federalism (bigger Brussels means higher contributions) that would see UK taking a bigger share of their past debt because of our growing GDP. - Read the new strategic plans written by Ms von da Leyen.

Scotland's independence would be a disaster. Scotland has a very high level of debt (one of highest in Europe and rising) despite the higher per capita income from the rUK. An independent Scotland would need a subsidy from the EU but its debt is too high to qualify for entry The vast majority of trade is with rUK.
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I get your first point... but why do you want to act as a grown up to Scotland.. let them forge their destiny. They can sell dram, golf tourism, North Sea oil, ship building, university to the world. If they are such a drain, don’t you think they should drain the EU rather than get subsidy from rUK/Westminster. In BoJos words, we will have a glorious future ahead of us (without Scotland or EU - both of which receive money from this world class country)
 
Mudball said:
I get your first point... but why do you want to act as a grown up to Scotland.. let them forge their destiny. They can sell dram, golf tourism, North Sea oil, ship building, university to the world. If they are such a drain, don’t you think they should drain the EU rather than get subsidy from rUK/Westminster. In BoJos words, we will have a glorious future ahead of us (without Scotland or EU - both of which receive money from this world class country)
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Did Johnson really say that last sentence, if so which country was he referring to.:unsure:
 
Mudball said:
So a quick question for the Leavers ?
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And this is a perfect example of how some are still trying to perpetuate the divide.

We are all "Leavers" now. Get used to it. Whatever the future holds must be better than becoming a milked colony of the EU (actually a bit like how Britain developed it's Empire I suppose - and look what happened to that).

Tony Abbot (former Australian PM) said tonight "Britain is a country that has led the world and it has certainly saved Europe in the past and I think what's happened is a beacon of light and hope to people everywhere." Are we going to save Europe yet again? :unsure::unsure:;)
 
Leftie said:
And this is a perfect example of how some are still trying to perpetuate the divide.

We are all "Leavers" now. Get used to it. Whatever the future holds must be better than becoming a milked colony of the EU (actually a bit like how Britain developed it's Empire I suppose - and look what happened to that).

Tony Abbot (former Australian PM) said tonight "Britain is a country that has led the world and it has certainly saved Europe in the past and I think what's happened is a beacon of light and hope to people everywhere." Are we going to save Europe yet again? :unsure::unsure:;)
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Absolutely.
Ongoing Remainers are carrying out an act of masterbation, their efforts produce results of only self gratification. When I
look back at the disaster Parliament of 2019 and the actions of Bercow, Greeve, Hammond, May, Benn, Corbyn Et Al it seems
Iike we have cast off our cement slippers.
 
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Got notification that my “Boris got brexit done” fridge magnet has been dispatched.
Available from Conservative party Facebook page £6.

Go on treat yourself.
 
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