Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

[Deleted member 16999]

I'm assuming that your golf club is a members club. If so, why is EU funding being used to provide equipment for a private members club? Is there a wider benefit to the community that makes it eligible for funding?

We qualified under the isolated communities and rural development rules.

We hold sessions for Community Groups, as in Dementia Homes, under privileged kids, OAP homes, Community Centres, over last 12 months we have introduced Golf to over 200 people, we also have to provide one local person with a 30hr Contract for a minimum of 3 years.

On the back of the simulator we also have now got the SafeGolf Accreditation from England Golf.

As JLO I have also used it as part of my business plan to give an introduction to kids of an evening over the winter months during the week. Over 80 local kids have either attended a 6 week (1hr per week) course or a 2 day (2hrs per day) “get into golf” course.

Hopefully that meets with your approval.

 

[ColchesterFC]

We qualified under the isolated communities and rural development rules.

We hold sessions for Community Groups, as in Dementia Homes, under privileged kids, OAP homes, Community Centres, over last 12 months we have introduced Golf to over 200 people, we also have to provide one local person with a 30hr Contract for a minimum of 3 years.

On the back of the simulator we also have now got the SafeGolf Accreditation from England Golf.

As JLO I have also used it as part of my business plan to give an introduction to kids of an evening over the winter months during the week. Over 80 local kids have either attended a 6 week (1hr per week) course or a 2 day (2hrs per day) “get into golf” course.

Hopefully that meets with your approval.

Cheers for the reply. I wasn't having a pop, I was interested in how the funding works and what was required to qualify.

 

[Del_Boy]

So a load of fellas have got the hump that the UK give a load of cash to the EU who then decide if the cash can be spent in the UK with potentially further UK funding. The fellas requesting this funding have no way of backing or voting out the people who decide this funding.

In the future if a UK government decides they don’t want to fund the projects that potentially the EU would have funded the Uk electorate at least every 5 years are able to kick out said government - but that is not good enough. Is my understanding correct?

 

[SocketRocket]

Yes we know what point you are making, the point others are asking is:
Will the money we are not contributing from next year be available for the same purposes, ie Will there be a scheme were, like the one we applied to, another Golf Club could apply that is run by the UK Government? (I don’t expect you to know the answer)

We/I understand it was literally our own money we were applying to the EU for, but using our case in point, there were no UK funds we either could apply for or were refused, the EU was a last resort.

Thousands upon thousands of UK money has been granted back to us via the EU, will there be anything in the future these communities/individuals etc can apply to.

Thats a rather hypothetical question to ask me as I have no more idea than you. I guess whether our government has money to pay to such grants depends on what we have left after paying the eye watering divorce bill and how much we are prepared to let the EU screw us further in trade agreements. Lets hope Boris holds a good line and steers clear of tieing any free trade to us paying money for it. I guess the Farmers will be looking for subsidies along with the car manufacturers and many other industries. I am sure we will look after our own.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Thats a rather hypothetical question to ask me as I have no more idea than you. I guess whether our government has money to pay to such grants depends on what we have left after paying the eye watering divorce bill and how much we are prepared to let the EU screw us further in trade agreements. Lets hope Boris holds a good line and steers clear of tieing any free trade to us paying money for it. I guess the Farmers will be looking for subsidies along with the car manufacturers and many other industries. I am sure we will look after our own.

Did you miss the bit were I stated “(I don’t expect you to know the answer)”

If some money isn’t found by successive governments for local initiatives etc, then I’d suggest it might add fuel to the fire for those who wanted to remain, regardless of whether any future governments could afford it.

 

[SocketRocket]

Did you miss the bit were I stated “(I don’t expect you to know the answer)”

If some money isn’t found by successive governments for local initiatives etc, then I’d suggest it might add fuel to the fire for those who wanted to remain, regardless of whether any future governments could afford it.

Who knows eh! As I said its all hypothetical so we will have to wait and see. I have faith that we will get through it and we dont have governments wanting to do the country down. Onwards and upwards.

Oh! and just so you can continue with your perception I had better add a ? as I didnt miss your point but was reinforcing it.

 

[drdel]

I see that Barnier and Varadkar have demanded the UK accept the EU's rules and do not compete unfairly.

Why? If we can compete we should, it is so simplistic to assume ANY nation would willingly hamstring there would competitiveness. I rather like the fact the are worried.

 

[Kellfire]

I see that Barnier and Varadkar have demanded the UK accept the EU's rules and do not compete unfairly.

Why? If we can compete we should, it is so simplistic to assume ANY nation would willingly hamstring there would competitiveness. I rather like the fact the are worried.

If your negotiating position is hoping to worry your partner then you’re clearly a terrible negotiator and should hand over the reigns to someone else.

 

[SocketRocket]

If your negotiating position is hoping to worry your partner then you’re clearly a terrible negotiator and should hand over the reigns to someone else.

Who should the EU hand it to.

 

[Kellfire]

Who should the EU hand it to.

Shouldn’t matter as we’re going to get the easiest deal ever from our position of immense strength...

 

[patricks148]

talk on the radio today the Fishing ind is going to be sold down the river, that will please those who voted Tory in Aberdeenshire

 

[SocketRocket]

talk on the radio today the Fishing ind is going to be sold down the river, that will please those who voted Tory in Aberdeenshire

Good it's only talk then. If Scotland had its way we would be leaving it back in the hands of the EU.

 

[SocketRocket]

Shouldn’t matter as we’re going to get the easiest deal ever from our position of immense strength...

If you say so

 

[patricks148]

Good it's only talk then. If Scotland had its way we would be leaving it back in the hands of the EU.

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whats that got to do with it, we have left, get our borders back etc, and the fishing ind told Brexit would be good for them, but could end up with no change yet have no say in what is decided

 

[MegaSteve]

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whats that got to do with it, we have left, get our borders back etc, and the fishing ind told Brexit would be good for them, but could end up with no change yet have no say in what is decided

As I said, a couple of days back, our fishing communities need to be a priority over looking after the "City" folk... Boris needs to start looking after his new 'mates' or come the next election it'll be the exit door for him...

 

[SocketRocket]

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whats that got to do with it, we have left, get our borders back etc, and the fishing ind told Brexit would be good for them, but could end up with no change yet have no say in what is decided

Another hypothetical post on the negotiations. Could, would, maybe who bloody knows. Lets at least give our people a chance and see what goes up the flagpole, you never know we might salute it ?

 

[patricks148]

As I said, a couple of days back, our fishing communities need to be a priority over looking after the "City" folk... Boris needs to start looking after his new 'mates' or come the next election it'll be the exit door for him...

Mmm lets see, who will Boris back Fishing or Banking???

London or a few regional fishing towns?

 

[patricks148]

Another hypothetical post on the negotiations. Could, would, maybe who bloody knows. Lets at least give our people a chance and see what goes up the flagpole, you never know we might salute it ?

when did facts get in the way on this thread

 

[Old Skier]

Mmm lets see, who will Boris back Fishing or Banking???

London or a few regional fishing towns?

As fishing counts for .1% of our GDP you might be right but as the great British public have so little interest in what our fishermen catch so they have had to sell it to those living in the EU perhaps the great British public won't give a hoot - unfortunately.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Mmm lets see, who will Boris back Fishing or Banking???

London or a few regional fishing towns?

Value of fish caught in the UK 2018, approx £989m
Value of banking to the UK 2018, approx £132bn

There is only one winner in that fight and if it is not banking then whoever makes that decision is not of sound mind. The fishing argument is largely historical and emotional. I absolutely am not throwing them to the wolves but the idea that the fishing fleet is suddenly going to boom is not realistic.