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Then you should of made that clear.
Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!
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SocketRocket
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The discussion was around regional development, I thought you had noticed that.
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Phil never said regional development.
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I havent said you were wrong and/or what the truth is or isn’t. But what I will say is we would not have seen the same investment from a Tory Government as we have seen in this city the last 30yrs.
I genuinely fear where we would be without the EU grants and other investment.
I’ve also worked in Manchester for a long period of time whose communities also benefitted hugely from EU grants.
I've seen little pixies running naked up Trafford Way.
Seriously Stu, rather than say what you've seen, Google Liverpool EU grants and Manchester EU grants. The evidence suggest its a lot closer than you think, and maybe more in favour of Liverpool. Personally, I'm not fussed either way, although I do hope Liverpool win the Premiership.
And don't forget, CAPEX projects have to be applied for and approved by the national govt, not the local council.
SocketRocket
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I quote from his postPhil never said regional development.
"Eu grants forced the UK into putting money into areas that previously they weren’t bothered about because they were outside the London financial hub areas -
why did these areas have to go down the line of EU grants - because their own government did nothing for them - areas under “managed decline” , areas left to rot with no investment from their own government - well now they need to fully fund all these projects that the EU grants covered - should be ok , plenty of money back in the coffers to go around the whole of the UK"
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Any pics ?
gmc40
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By Geoffrey Howe to Thatcher In the aftermath of the Toxteth riots in 1981. That was his proposal as he felt Liverpool was already declining and that investment wouldn’t help. She sent Michael Heseltine to the city and he had a different opinion. The regeneration of the Albert Dock area and the International Garden Festival followed and Heseltine was given the freedom of the city in 2012.
Liverpool, like other Northern cities benefited greatly from EU investment, can’t see Boris and co replicating it now we’re out.
You’re pathetic
robinthehood
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I think you need help. It's not healthy following people about.
Slime
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The Brexiteer/Remainer divide just keeps getting wider and wider with no attempt from either side to close it.
If this thread is a snapshot of the nation as a whole, then God help us all!
So sad and such a shame.
The die has been cast and we have left the EU, for better or for worse ................... hopefully better.
Surely this is the time for everyone to pull together as one rather than carry on the stupid name calling that's been going on for the last few years ............................... or am I just being naive..
If this thread is a snapshot of the nation as a whole, then God help us all!
So sad and such a shame.
The die has been cast and we have left the EU, for better or for worse ................... hopefully better.
Surely this is the time for everyone to pull together as one rather than carry on the stupid name calling that's been going on for the last few years ............................... or am I just being naive..
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Yes, you’re being naive, Brexit still has a way to go (a long way) before we see any real evidence of whether it’s a success or not.
The work starts now, those of us who voted Leave believe it’s the right thing to do and have faith that in time we’ll be proven correct.
Some who voted Remain have moved on and some never will, that’s their prerogative, some will hope it’s a disaster so we could look to rejoin the EU.
In any society after such an upheaval you will never get 100% of those involved pulling together, it’s not in the human nature.
So again, yes, you’re being naive, it would be good if you weren’t, but I think it’s just not realistic.
Hacker Khan
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Never a truer post typed in the history of this forum, I mean just think what the charts would be like, 'Highest new entry at number 2 this week for a new band called Marillion with Kayleigh. and still at number one for the 34th straight year it's Status Quo with Down Down'
I doubt it will get much better as some remainers will still be sulking and some leavers still need to direct their anger somewhere now they can't blame the EU anymore. But life will go on.
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drdel
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^^^ It is not the 'Forum' or the thread's fault that some posters get a little wound up; what's wrong with a bit of emotion as long as its not abusive/illegal. The subject reflects what is going on around us and, for some, it is a big deal for others not so much.
I guess there's a wide variety of personal reasons posters vent their feeling and write so I don't see why a thread needs to be closed if those debating keep wishing to express a view and comment. Its a bit of time wasting, the majority of posts are interesting and amusing.
Reading the thread is not compulsory and neither is commentating on it. 'Live and let live' is a good maxim and that applies equally to the Forum and Breixt and I do hope we don't fall in the 'fashionable' trap of looking for reasons to be offended.
I guess there's a wide variety of personal reasons posters vent their feeling and write so I don't see why a thread needs to be closed if those debating keep wishing to express a view and comment. Its a bit of time wasting, the majority of posts are interesting and amusing.
Reading the thread is not compulsory and neither is commentating on it. 'Live and let live' is a good maxim and that applies equally to the Forum and Breixt and I do hope we don't fall in the 'fashionable' trap of looking for reasons to be offended.
SocketRocket
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Good Post.
As gets pointed out to those who get offended by reading this thread and then go on to insult other posters for their views: 'Its not compulsorily to read or be involved with, if it offends you then keep away'
Old Skier
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All EU grants are costed on a 50/50 basis, that 50/50 may not be cash and can be made up on some very crafty accounting methods.
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Which grants though? Apparently we’ve learnt there are different types. I don’t believe there is a “one type fits all” grant
I was heavily involved in applying for our grant (form filling, evidence production etc) and there was never a mention of 50/50, 20% was the maximum we could apply for and 20% we got.
SocketRocket
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There are indeed a number of different grants. The point being made is that the EU don't give all the money and don't initiate it, the grant had to be applied for. I know I keep harping on about this point but the UK as a net contributor paid for everything they received from the EU.
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Yes we know what point you are making, the point others are asking is:
Will the money we are not contributing from next year be available for the same purposes, ie Will there be a scheme were, like the one we applied to, another Golf Club could apply that is run by the UK Government? (I don’t expect you to know the answer)
We/I understand it was literally our own money we were applying to the EU for, but using our case in point, there were no UK funds we either could apply for or were refused, the EU was a last resort.
Thousands upon thousands of UK money has been granted back to us via the EU, will there be anything in the future these communities/individuals etc can apply to.
ColchesterFC
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I'm assuming that your golf club is a members club. If so, why is EU funding being used to provide equipment for a private members club? Is there a wider benefit to the community that makes it eligible for funding?
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