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So we have Ministers aound the country drumming up support. I thought the vote was in the HoC by MPs - unless there's a seond referendum! But that can't be true because the PM, et al has said they will not support a second vote !!!
Waste of time. 70% of constituencies voted leave but their representivitives in parliament don't wish to reflect this. If there is another general election local parties should consider if their representatives are worth keeping.So we have Ministers aound the country drumming up support. I thought the vote was in the HoC by MPs - unless there's a seond referendum! But that can't be true because the PM, et al has said they will not support a second vote !!!
I understand the sentiment but how would that actually work? If there was a 2nd referendum and the result was reversed, wouldn't that result then reflect what the People thought? You're asking the Public to deselect politicians who agree with them at that point?Waste of time. 70% of constituencies voted leave but their representivitives in parliament don't wish to reflect this. If there is another general election local parties should consider if their representatives are worth keeping.
I live close to the Channel Tunnel and the M20 from Dover, the local news has just said that they might fly in drugs, why are they planning to look after Columbian dealers 🤔
I understand the sentiment but how would that actually work? If there was a 2nd referendum and the result was reversed, wouldn't that result then reflect what the People thought? You're asking the Public to deselect politicians who agree with them at that point?
I understand the sentiment but how would that actually work? If there was a 2nd referendum and the result was reversed, wouldn't that result then reflect what the People thought? You're asking the Public to deselect politicians who agree with them at that point?
The same could be said for the first referendum, surely?Would a reversed result reflect the peoples' thoughts, or reflect that the peoples' will had been beaten into submission by the lies & deceit from the politicians the people elected to serve them but who instead serve their own interests first and foremost?
I haven't ever asked for a 2nd referendum. Not once. I was simply questioning the logic behind SR's post.The previous result reflected what people thought. Why have another one?
The same could be said for the first referendum, surely?
If the people are that weak before the 2nd ref, then it's only logic that they could be that weak before the first? And Hogie's been taking stick for 2 years for saying that same thing!!!
Ok. I stand corrected 😉No he's not been taking stick for saying that same thing; he's been taking stick for the utterly obnoxious, condescending, insulting and downright rude manner in which he said that same thing. In my opinion of course.![]()
So is this behind the big campaign to keep manston open 😀I live close to the Channel Tunnel and the M20 from Dover, the local news has just said that they might fly in drugs, why are they planning to look after Columbian dealers 🤔
I can only ask you to look at the video in post #2626 and then explain why leaving the EU should be complicated.I haven't ever asked for a 2nd referendum. Not once. I was simply questioning the logic behind SR's post.
I'm really not sure if the relevance here. That was a speech given by possibly the worst PM in memory (prior to TM) as part of a negotiation. I'd have been surprised if he'd said anything different.I can only ask you to look at the video in post #2626 and then explain why leaving the EU should be complicated.
I see someone has likened the Brexit monstermucklefuddle to the start of the 1914/18 war.Would a reversed result reflect the peoples' thoughts, or reflect that the peoples' will had been beaten into submission by the lies & deceit from the politicians the people elected to serve them but who instead serve their own interests first and foremost?
I'm really not sure if the relevance here. That was a speech given by possibly the worst PM in memory (prior to TM) as part of a negotiation. I'd have been surprised if he'd said anything different.
I think the only relevance to it, and others like it, is to show it was made very clear what people voted for. People were told that it was out of the SM and CU.
Isn’t it strange that it appears to only be Remainers who say no one knew what people were voting for.
Right. I'm in a sensitive state so I'm going to just say it.I see someone has likened the Brexit monstermucklefuddle to the start of the 1914/18 war.
The biggest act to self harm ever inflicted on the nation.