Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

[IanM]

Its interesting to read what the press are reporting what the gov ministers over here in Spain are saying. Basically, stuff your negotiations we're going to sign our own deals on fishing, tourism and residencia if Barnier et al screw it up. Spanish fishing in UK waters is worth €500m, and they want a deal. The value of UK tourism in Spain is €13bn. And the spending of UK citizens living in Spain is over €45bn.

No, from listening to the BBC and SILH for the past 3 years, I am pretty certain that the EU doesnt sell anything to us at all and no money is spent by UK citizens on holiday in Spain!

 

[Hobbit]

Remain might have exaggerated - Leave lied and did not tell the truths about the major issues the country would face. They sold the electorate a false prospectus and told the electorate that everything the Remain campaign was saying was a lie - so even when Remain exaggerated we were told it was a lie - so not to be believed. And if you do not believe a lie have you been deceived?

And George Osbourne wasn't censored by a Commons Select Committee, and wasn't criticised by his own Treasury Secretary.

Remain lied and Leave lied. You spouting Remain lies as truths makes you no better than Farage and Johnson.

 

[IanM]

Politicans lied? Fancy that!!

 

[Dando]

Politicans lied? Fancy that!!

Only those on the leave side lied.
the ones who wanted to remain only exaggerated!

 

[Deleted member 18121]

I wonder how different things would be right now if people who actually believed in brexit were running our exit strategy properly, rather than the remain crew sabotaging it from the inside out. Surely one of the biggest conflict of interest stories of the modern era.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I wonder how different things would be right now if people who actually believed in brexit were running our exit strategy properly, rather than the remain crew sabotaging it from the inside out. Surely one of the biggest conflict of interest stories of the modern era.

I think that is a very fascinating question. One for university degree courses in the coming years.

 

[IanM]

I wonder how different things would be right now if people who actually believed in brexit were running our exit strategy properly, rather than the remain crew sabotaging it from the inside out. Surely one of the biggest conflict of interest stories of the modern era.

Bang. Nailed on.

All part of the "we cant' do it strategy"................ keep voting till you plebs get it right!

I think that is a very fascinating question. One for university degree courses in the coming years.

Not a chance.... Universities will increasingly de-platform anything they don't agree with and campaign for Federalism

 

[Mudball]

Wooh hoo!!!

As I was saying all along ... this might have been decided long ago but then strung out for as long as it could to create the illusion that we r in a no-deal situation.. and then voila T-May in shinning armour will vanquish all the naysayers, Labour et al with the rabbit out the hat

Brexit: Theresa May calls special cabinet meeting http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46188790

 

[Deleted member 18121]

Wooh hoo!!!

As I was saying all along ... this might have been decided long ago but then strung out for as long as it could to create the illusion that we r in a no-deal situation.. and then voila T-May in shinning armour will vanquish all the naysayers, Labour et al with the rabbit out the hat

Brexit: Theresa May calls special cabinet meeting http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46188790

Now, is there any chance of another vote with these options:

1. Accept the deal as presented
2. Stay as we were in the EU

Because this what I'm now scared of

 

[Deleted member 1418]

Now, is there any chance of another vote with these options:

1. Accept the deal as presented
2. Stay as we were in the EU

Because this what I'm now scared of

The Government/Civil Service has invested too much time, resource and (most importantly) money in preparing for EU Exit (either Deal or No Deal).

Therefore the only question on any hypotheticalsecond vote (because that's all it is) is Leave with proposed deal or Leave without a deal.

That point seems to be constantly overlooked.

Anyway I'm going back to trying to find those unicorns I keep reading about!

 

[Hobbit]

The Government/Civil Service has invested too much time, resource and (most importantly) money in preparing for EU Exit (either Deal or No Deal).

Therefore the only question on any hypotheticalsecond vote (because that's all it is) is Leave with proposed deal or Leave without a deal.

That point seems to be constantly overlooked.

Anyway I'm going back to trying to find those unicorns I keep reading about!

Quick! There’s a herd of them galloping up The Mall.

 

[ColchesterFC]

Merkel has now joined Macron in calling for the creation of an EU army. That must be a totally different EU army to the one that Remain said would never exist during the referendum. Otherwise Remain would have been telling lies and as we know they don't do that, they only exaggerate.

 

[chrisd]

And George Osbourne wasn't censored by a Commons Select Committee, and wasn't criticised by his own Treasury Secretary.

Remain lied and Leave lied. You spouting Remain lies as truths makes you no better than Farage and Johnson.

Is SILH still spouting the same old?

 

[ColchesterFC]

Agreement reached with the EU. Now just the small matter of getting the cabinet to agree and then getting it through a vote in Parliament. Should be easy from here.

 

[Leftie]

Is SILH still spouting the same old?

 

[bobmac]

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A blinkered unicorn?

 

[chrisd]

So a deals been done, we're out woopie 😁😁😁

 

[spongebob59]

So a deals been done, we're out woopie 😁😁😁

The words of hOkey cokey will sum up the next few months.

 

[Dando]

Is SILH still spouting the same old?

Does a one legged duck swim in circles?

 

[Dando]

The Government/Civil Service has invested too much time, resource and (most importantly) money in preparing for EU Exit (either Deal or No Deal).

Therefore the only question on any hypotheticalsecond vote (because that's all it is) is Leave with proposed deal or Leave without a deal.

That point seems to be constantly overlooked.

Anyway I'm going back to trying to find those unicorns I keep reading about!

Ride one down to the Kent meet this weekend!