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[Val]

Very good point although with his increasing number of these wrong calls you wonder how many of these show piece games he'll get going forward

He shouldn't get any, I said earlier I wouldn't like him not to referee but he should be demoted. That scenario does happen in football.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Maybe not

http://www.skysports.com/rugby-unio...gg-makes-diving-promise-after-referees-rebuke

I hope so - doing it that once was bad enough.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

He shouldn't get any, I said earlier I wouldn't like him not to referee but he should be demoted. That scenario does happen in football.

I agree. However is it just me, and I hold up my hand and say I am not too clued up, but isn't the international panel, a bit like ICC umpires a bit light at the top in terms of real top class officials with the experience to handle these occasions

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Captains are still the ones who will speak to the ref

Perfect example was in the game with NZ and France - a French player was about to say something and then realised and just walked away meakly

I haven't seen too many instances of players questioning the ref

Nor me,I thought the Scottish boys showed the utmost respect to the official through the whole game and imo the respect is definitely still there.

Think the players will always respect the ref and rightly so , can understand the immediate reaction because it was gutting for them

It's the media and social media outcry after that is disappointing ( more so the media )

 

[Val]

So now you question the integrity of the referee - this has happened because of the reaction of both the Scottish captain , coach and fans - the World Rugby wouldn't need to say anything if the desicion was respected as it normally has been - it's changed now and now it will just get worse , anytime a desicion happens that effects a game there will be the hysterical outcry and demands for public outing of the ref and there will now be an expectation for the RFU etc to comment on the descisions.

I don't see how that's a brave thing to do as it sets a dangerous precedent and I wonder if the feeling would be the same if it was an English desicion

You're being stupid now, I didn't once question the referee's integrity.

i'll leave this debate to yourself. I'm afraid bringing England into something that has nothing to do with them is trolling.

Enjoy your night

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Wasn't aware of that.

Apparently it happened in a Super ten matches a couple years back with a ref seeing a replay and changing his mind -

Need the television companies to be involved

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Captains are still the ones who will speak to the ref

Perfect example was in the game with NZ and France - a French player was about to say something and then realised and just walked away meakly

I haven't seen too many instances of players questioning the ref

But I did see a player dive and make a meal of a challenge so maybe things are going the way of football

My point is, at one time it was the Captain and the Captain only, now it might only be him 99% of the time, next year it might be 98%, it was mentioned by one of the commentators during the group phase that he had noticed a couple of players not the Captains questioning decisions and it was something they should make an effort to stamp out.

 

[pokerjoke]

Joubert isn't allowed to reverse the decision based on a television replay in the stadium - not allowed to be influenced by a television replay - and Laidlaw shouldn't ask him to look at the replay when he can't ,they were discussing that exact thing tonight and mentioning that television directors not to show replays unless it's with the TMO

He can change based on what his touch judges say

In the England game and I cant remember who it was against the referee did change a decision after seeing a replay on the big screen.
The team scored a try but the big screen showed he had lost control of the ball and the ref went to the TMO for confirmation and reversed the decision.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

You're being stupid now, I didn't once question the referee's integrity.

i'll leave this debate to yourself. I'm afraid bringing England into something that has nothing to do with them is trolling.

Enjoy your night

To be fair Val, we had our on match in our hands and the XV on the field got it wrong not the referee.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

You're being stupid now, I didn't once question the referee's integrity.

i'll leave this debate to yourself. I'm afraid bringing England into something that has nothing to do with them is trolling.

Enjoy your night

Suggesting that the ref could possibly favour the bigger teams

"Is this an honest mistake from Joubert"

And yes I think it's fair to question that if the desicion went against England would it be brave that the governing body said it was a mistake ?

 

[Val]

To be fair Val, we had our on match in our hands and the XV on the field got it wrong not the referee.

Thats not the point I'm making Homer. Read his post again and you'll get what I mean.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

In the England game and I cant remember who it was against the referee did change a decision after seeing a replay on the big screen.
The team scored a try but the big screen showed he had lost control of the ball and the ref went to the TMO for confirmation and reversed the decision.

Because TMO can be used for tries and discipline etc - not on technical offences ( knock ons etc )

 

[Val]

Suggesting that the ref could possibly favour the bigger teams

"Is this an honest mistake from Joubert"

And yes I think it's fair to question that if the desicion went against England would it be brave that the governing body said it was a mistake ?

Selective quoting Phil, the next word I said was probably.

Im done with you tonight, respect all but gone with that dig I'm afraid.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Thats not the point I'm making Homer. Read his post again and you'll get what I mean.

I know but was trying to shift the onus a tad. I get what you're saying 100%. It's going to happen. Referees in all sports will make mistakes even with the technology at hand. I can't see how that will ever really change. Yes if it happened to England in any sport I'd be miffed as a fan but what can you do?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Selective quoting Phil, the next word I said was probably.

Im done with you tonight, respect all but gone with that dig I'm afraid.

Not a dig Val but have you not mentioned it before in regards Joubert and possible favouritism ?

To even mention it then surely there must be a doubt even small in your mind that he possibly does favour the bigger nations - seen the suspicion posted about him before on Twitter as well

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Very good article from the Telegraph

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ru...nd-you-are-attacking-the-spirit-of-rugby.html

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Although the penalty may now be being ruled incorrect, Scotland took defeat from the jaws of victory with the poor line out throw in and the subsequent mess they made of it. It's easy to write in hindsight, but all they had to do was keep the ball for 90 seconds, clear the line, boot it up field and get it away from their own goal line and out of drop goal range.

Its tough to lose the way they did, as they played brilliantly for 78 and a bit mins, but a lapse of concentration denied them the victory they should have had, but now with World Rugby saying the ref made a mistake, that's just rubbing salt, iodine and soap into the wound.

Sod that - the decision was wrong.

 

[upsidedown]

Talking this over with my nephew and we both agreed that endless TMO referrals are bad for the game so how about they went to the " Challenge system " Each captain has the right to challenge "ONE" decision each half, get it right and he keeps it, wrong and it's gone. TMO keeps an eye on Foul play and lets Ref know if he/AR's misses any and the game keeps moving.

 

[Slab]

Echo the posts saying its great (even refreshing) to hear the governing body release their ref performance review

It was the wrong call, it was an error, a mistake why hide or deny it, that would only fuel any unwarranted calls of bias or favouritism

There's no buses, wolves or hangmen, just an acknowledgement from the governing body of what the decision should have been

The guy screwed up (as all will from time to time) but he chose to deal with it by legging it off the pitch!



edit to add, if you go to the RWC shop lots of stuff at half price! some bargains to be had there

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Echo the posts saying its great (even refreshing) to hear the governing body release their ref performance review

It was the wrong call, it was an error, a mistake why hide or deny it, that would only fuel any unwarranted calls of bias or favouritism

There's no buses, wolves or hangmen, just an acknowledgement from the governing body of what the decision should have been

The guy screwed up (as all will from time to time) but he chose to deal with it by legging it off the pitch!

So simple question - should it happen now after every single match ?