Better or worse

And I'm not arguing that you do that on a regular basis. My concern is this talk of pros giving out too much duff info, even in GM if the other thread is anything to go on, is going to put a lot of people off having lessons. For many, one or even a course of lessons would make a world of difference to their game and would increase their level of enjoyment. They may not ever threaten single figures but seeing somewhere other than the right rough off every tee must be a better way to go.

As I said it's rare that I disagree so strongly with you but this is one of those times. I'm not saying what you've posted is wrong and I can really see where you are coming from and as you know have even nibbled at the dark art of S&T so I'm not adverse to trying these things. Its just the pros are wrong bit I don't like
 
You're right Jocko, I forgot the wink smiley.

I know I type in a smug way but I'm under no illusion that anyone has to listen to a word I say.
 
Homer, would you want (car) driving lessons from someone who had you spinning the steering wheel with the heel of your right hand as it's the quick way to turn a car... or someone who had you keep both hands on the steering wheel at 10-2?

Or someone's child?
 
You're right Jocko, I forgot the wink smiley.

I know I type in a smug way but I'm under no illusion that anyone has to listen to a word I say.

Just aswell you didn't mis-type "wink", not sure I'd like to see that smiley!!

As I said, I have found it interesting reading about it, just sometimes I think there are some misleading aspects to it for newcomers to the game. I suppose they'll work it our for themselves soon enough.
 
I wonder what percentage of golfers are quite happy to bimble along shooting in the 90s ?
Think of the number of seniors at your club and ask do they take lessons to get better and practice hard or are they quite happy with the company and the fresh air.
I'm not sure they really care what the ruling bodies think.

Now if you were to find out what the average h/cap is of golfers under say 50 was, I think the figure will be a lot lower than 22

Bob,

When we talk of average handicaps you have to take all of them into account, even the hackers.

Quite a lot of Seniors take lessions at my club, the Pro has regular Senior group lessons that are very well attended. We do have quite a lot of very good senior players, quite a number of Cat ones as well. I played a few weeks ago with a 74 year old playing off 4 and he rode on his own small buggy. Most also seem very competitive and want to play well.
 
Coaching, as with any form of tuition I guess, is a skill; knowing the subject matter inside out, even being able to see what is wrong or not being understood is only half the battle. The really difficult bit is being able to communicate and actually teach.

If you don't get what you want out of visits to a pro then ask around and see a different one on recommendation.

It would be interesting to hear what those who do have lessons are hoping to get out of it too, a quick fix to a fault that creeps into their game? In which case they are only likely to get lessons occasionally. Or a genuine desire to improve? which needs regular pactice alongside the coaching.

As for the threads on here where advice is given, sometimes the quick fix to a fault can be found by listening to what other golfers have experienced, I dare say that for the right sort of person reading the views and tips from the likes of JOuk, Bob and Socketrocket (to name just a few) could lead to steady improvement.
 
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