B and M golf shop in NI

[user2010]

Unlike some I would not be so pompous as to dictate to others what they may post. Equally I would not be so arrogant as to offer advice on a subject (specialist, niche retailing) of which I have no knowledge or experience, doubtless you would not feel so inhibited.

All I have pointed out is the opinions and advice offered by so many including, of course, yourself was not what he had requested. As such, therefore, he is entitled to be frustrated by the amount of unsolicited "advice" and this may be reflected in his response.

Well said bud.:thup:

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Can I ask the OP a simple question?

Have you been to the bank of other lender with a detailed business proposal regarding your model, start up costs, projected profit/loss in the first three, six and twelve months, year two and three and onwards and if so, what was their reaction.

Like it or not banks won't usually invest in something they see as a high risk, or pie in the sky project. I'm interested to see if those prepared to back the scheme see it as a good model to find a particular niche in the market

 

[351DRIVER]

To come back to your some of your points

Golf store Europe sold to Europe and UK on the world wide web The store used to be total golfand did well so up the owner got outside investment to take it to a wider market ie Europe. Still failed for whatever mainly due to competition and prices.

Did you not say that you are looking at Northern Ireland for cheap rent? But as you stated your on the web so you can't fail PLEASE show me where i wrote that!


So your going to get a better rate than must stores? Never heard as much toss in all my life.
I already do
Anything you can do or buy a good rate can be copiee
Not quite as simple as you might think

If this business of yours takes over the world of golf. Some of the big players will copy your model and eat you up.
I am hoping to be bought out down the line

They push irons and woods because they sell. jez doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that
Where did i say THEY DO NOT SELL, i said they sell but everyone competes on price and so the margins are poor

If the golf game was a big seller they have it all over the front cover of there web sites etc. Personally I don't know one person that buys the stuff your looking to sell.
A sample of 1 is hardly market research which is why i was not asking for it, but i would not be surprised if other people on this thread have 1 or more of the devices I will sell

As for experience I don't claim to have a great deal. Only a degree in business and accounting and started a small parts business here in Northern Ireland a few years ago.

I am not trying to put you off I just giving you my advise on the matter.
Thanks for your advice based on posts I did not make and zero experience of golf

We might not have a big population here in Northern Ireland but even in Belfast you will find that prime location cost a lot more than most parts in the north of England[/QUOTE
The rent and rates are bloody cheap, i have looked at many places online recently

 

[351DRIVER]

can i ask the op a simple question?

Have you been to the bank of other lender with a detailed business proposal regarding your model, start up costs, projected profit/loss in the first three, six and twelve months, year two and three and onwards and if so, what was their reaction.

Like it or not banks won't usually invest in something they see as a high risk, or pie in the sky project. I'm interested to see if those prepared to back the scheme see it as a good model to find a particular niche in the market

NO


http://www.mygolfspy.com/insiders-view-golf-equipment-sales/

 

[selwood90]

Jesus christ is this still going on. 63 replies later and your still a know it all. So why bloody ask if you have all the answers to all the questions. Absolutely pointless.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

I know between not much and zero about retail stores, so ideas of costs, experiences etc etc all welcome..

I figure NI will be a low cost spot in terms of rentals and can service Ireland and the UK via a website

Interesting thread this one. I've read lots of replies offering advice which you have bluntly refused yet in your OP you profess to know little about the subject.

How to win friends and influence people..........

 

[351DRIVER]

Interesting thread this one. I've read lots of replies offering advice which you have bluntly refused yet in your OP you profess to know little about the subject.

How to win friends and influence people..........

I CLEARLY and CONSISTENTLY SAID THAT I WANT INPUT FROM PEOPLE

WITH EXPERIENCE OF GOLF RETAIL

If you do not have this, then I could not care less what you THINK you know

 

[351DRIVER]

Anyone got a golf store that is not attached to a club, i.e. something in a town centre?

Thinking about starting a golf shop for gadgets only in Northern Ireland, a town centre

I know between not much and zero about retail stores, so ideas of costs, experiences etc etc all welcome..

I figure NI will be a low cost spot in terms of rentals and can service Ireland and the UK via a website

It would focus on NON standard stuff, so you will not see a Taylor Made or Ping, but you would find Game Golf, Blast Motion, Edel etc

I have highlighted the FIRST LINE of this thread

Drive4show

you quoted me, but then removed the parts of the quote which entirely changed its meaning, then used your butchered quote to criticise me? Seriously why would you do that?

How about just do not post as you have no actual point to make without changing the meaning of what i said and you are of course clearly not staying on topic (Which i thought was a thing on this forum)

I have been consistent and clear throughout and also thankful to the two retailers I have had many PMs with.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I have highlighted the FIRST LINE of this thread

The problem is you posted the last line

Why tell the forum what you are focusing on selling - as soon as you do that people will give an opinion and give it politiely as they have. If that was no interest to you then you had choice - ignore what people had said or take on board what people are saying - you dismissed one person saying what he said wasn't good enough market research yet everyone has been saying it.

You are looking to sell to golfers - we are your potential customers if you get a shop up and running and if this is the way you speak to people normally you are losing customers before even starting. If you don't like what people have posted then just ignore it - don't start being "keyboard agressive" towards them

I am also saying this politely to you with no malice involved

 

[351DRIVER]

It is pretty simple

Most people having read 1 line should have known their input was not what this thread was about

If you cannot comprehend English
AND have no experience

then forgive me if your opinion (On the random topic YOU wish to discuss) is not given the time of day

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Anyone got a golf store that is not attached to a club, i.e. something in a town centre?

I haven't but I know 2 guys locally to me that have. If your attitude had been a bit more user friendly I may have been inclined to try to put you in touch with them.

 

[351DRIVER]

I haven't but I know 2 guys locally to me that have. If your attitude had been a bit more user friendly I may have been inclined to try to put you in touch with them.

TWO people have sent me almost 40 PMs in total, everyone else, well F knows what you are all involved for but the amount of stupid comments posted as FACTs from people who do not work in the golf business.

Liverpool Phil has posted 8 times and thousands of words of advice:rofl:, based on his experience of 0 days Let me give you a little selection, oh yes i only clipped this from TWO of his posts



Are there that many people who want to look to buy all the "non OEM" stock ? (DOES NOT KNOW

How many people actually want to rent or buy a launch monitor ?
DOES NOT KNOW AND i never said i was renting monitors

I would do your market research first and I think you will find out that there isn't a market for it
Soliciting opinion from qualified people is normally part of that process.. BTW and A MIRACLE NOW HE KNOWS!

The items you describe aren't on sale on the high street for a reason - there isn't the market for it to justify creating a high street shop.
**** a few lines later from having NOT KNOWN, he now KNOWS and states a fact based on ZERO experience.

Ok being honest no one on here is going to own a golf store because the independent stores are very few
WRONG

- the guy I play pro Ams with is a regional PGA for AG and he will tell you the same thing being said on her
HE TOO WOULD BE WRONG

This forum is your market research - the people are on here are who you would be selling too - golfers
No it is not, product research is not what I am asking about I have plenty of info on that

So tell me why you would ignore what your customers are saying ?
I do not ignore customers, but you are not a customer, you are offering consistent rubbish on a topic i have no interest in discussing here

It's an open forum and people are giving their opinion on your idea and so far you are just being agressive and rude towards some people are clearly giving you some sensible advice

Lets ignore the fact that you are not qualified to post a response,
WHAT SENSIBLE and unsolicited advice did you offer?

I just gave you some advice on doing market research - there is no need to respond the way you are doin
ADVICE ON DOING SOMETHING I AM ALREADY DOING AS EVIDENCED BY THIS THREAD.. AMAZING, THANKS

ETC

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

TWO people have sent me almost 40 PMs in total, everyone else, well F knows what you are all involved for but the amount of stupid comments posted as FACTs from people who do not work in the golf business.

Liverpool Phil has posted 8 times and thousands of words of advice, based on his experience of 0 days Let me give you a little selection, oh yes i only clipped this from TWO of his posts



Are there that many people who want to look to buy all the "non OEM" stock ? (DOES NOT KNOW

How many people actually want to rent or buy a launch monitor ?
DOES NOT KNOW AND i never said i was renting monitors

I would do your market research first and I think you will find out that there isn't a market for it
Soliciting opinion from qualified people is normally part of that process.. BTW and A MIRACLE NOW HE KNOWS!

The items you describe aren't on sale on the high street for a reason - there isn't the market for it to justify creating a high street shop.
**** a few lines later from having NOT KNOWN, he now KNOWS and states a fact based on ZERO experience.

Ok being honest no one on here is going to own a golf store because the independent stores are very few
WRONG

- the guy I play pro Ams with is a regional PGA for AG and he will tell you the same thing being said on her
HE TOO WOULD BE WRONG

This forum is your market research - the people are on here are who you would be selling too - golfers
No it is not, product research is not what I am asking about I have plenty of info on that

So tell me why you would ignore what your customers are saying ?
I do not ignore customers, but you are not a customer, you are offering consistent rubbish on a topic i have no interest in discussing here

It's an open forum and people are giving their opinion on your idea and so far you are just being agressive and rude towards some people are clearly giving you some sensible advice

Lets ignore the fact that you are not qualified to post a response, WHAT SENSIBLE ADVICE have you given me?

I just gave you some advice on doing market research - there is no need to respond the way you are doin
ADVICE ON DOING SOMETHING I AM ALREADY DOING AS EVIDENCED BY THIS THREAD.. AMAZING, THANKS

ETC

You really aren't doing yourself any favours.

 

[MendieGK]

It is pretty simple

Most people having read 1 line should have known their input was not what this thread was about

If you cannot comprehend English
AND have no experience

then forgive me if your opinion (On the random topic YOU wish to discuss) is not given the time of day

mate, you're boring.

 

[351DRIVER]

Why you are all posting, god only knows

BTW i was hoping for a BORING discussion

Hey does anyone have experience?

YES i do..
GREAT

Lets talk!



Not hard really but many of you need to stick your oar into everything apparently

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

351, some of your comments are bordering on offensive and sooner or later somebody will take offence and report you if you carry on which would end up in an infraction or ban. Just offering some friendly advice on something I know nothing about......

 

[351DRIVER]

351, some of your comments are bordering on offensive and sooner or later somebody will take offence and report you if you carry on which would end up in an infraction or ban. Just offering some friendly advice on something I know nothing about......

You are offended by my time being wasted responding to advice that is worth about zero?
Or
Are you offended by your inability to ignore a thread that clearly asked for experience you do not have?

If you do not want to be offended, stop posting as you have posted nothing useful but the thread itself has been due to the PMs i have had..

Anyone else that posts be aware that i have unsubscribed and blocked some people, if you want to PM me, please feel free
thanks

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

You are offended by my time being wasted responding to advice that is worth about zero?
Or
Are you offended by your inability to ignore a thread that clearly asked for experience you do not have?

If you do not want to be offended, stop posting as you have posted nothing useful but the thread itself has been due to the PMs i have had..

No, I'm not offended but what I actually said is that some people may be and it only takes one person to report you.

This is sound advice but as usual it is your choice whether or not you heed it.

 

[brendy]

To be fair the guy has asked from the outset for qualified responses, some of the replies are pretty crap to be honest. If you cant answer, dont. Pretty simple, move onto another thread.

 

[mat100p]

I have 20 years experience as an owner of high street retailing busineses not in golf but greeting cards and stationery. And I can assure the high street has never been so difficult. Footfall in all towns is massively down. I applaud your entrepreneur spirit and wish you luck. But if you are opening a shop then you are hoping for a degree of passing trade/ footfall thru your doors and if your consider a small percentage of the general public play golf those that do play want/require/desire the equipment you wish to sell your target market from passing trade will be minute. Alternatively on the internet your target market is huge as people will search for their specific requirements. I think you should also consider that 1000's of potential customers have read this thread even if not replied to it and to be fair you have been quite aggressive towards some well meaning posts.