Arsene Wenger

[Deleted member 15344]

Sorry I didn't realise they stop counting after a while, should win the FA cup this season

They don't stop counting but surely to judge Wengers success right now you need to look at current times

And I wouldn't count the FA Cup just yet.

You have spent £150mil in three years - what return would you expect from that ?

 

[Pin-seeker]

I'd definitely say Arsenal have been dealt the worse hand when it comes to injuries this season. Walcott was looking good before his injury & as been a big loss.

 

[freddielong]

A point is given every time a first team player is unavailable through injury, Woj is the only player not to miss a game though injury

 

[MadAdey]

he has won it, he went a season unbeaten he has two doubles ? he has a net spend over 17 years of about 50 mil Utd have spent more than that this season on top of a title winning team

Not bad going is it, net spend of 50M. That is only because everyone leaves Arsenal once a better offer comes along as they want ot go and win trophies. Toure, Nasri, Fabregas, Song, RVP, Cole, Adabeyour, just to name a few. That is why you have such a good nett spend, because no one wants to stay at Arsenal. It must be frustrating to see players of those abilities walking away all the time.

 

[Pin-seeker]

They don't stop counting but surely to judge Wengers success right now you need to look at current times

And I wouldn't count the FA Cup just yet.

You have spent £150mil in three years - what return would you expect from that ?

What is the figure for players sold?

 

[freddielong]

They don't stop counting but surely to judge Wengers success right now you need to look at current times

And I wouldn't count the FA Cup just yet.

You have spent £150mil in three years - what return would you expect from that ?

It depends on what you call success Arsenal driven by Wenger have built a luxury stadium and financed it them selves without dropping out of the top 4 in a period where most of the clubs around them have spent massively

Arsenal do not have a net spend of £150mil all monies spent until this season have been recouped by player sales

 

[Deleted member 15344]

A point is given every time a first team player is unavailable through injury, Woj is the only player not to miss a game though injury

Two players stick out straight away - Walcott and Wilshire - constantly injured - so why hasn't Wenger looked at support in the squad for them ?

We have struggled badly all season with our back 4 injuries but teams just get by and bring in youngsters etc - how teams cope will show the strength of the team.

 

[anotherdouble]

They should have won the league cup a couple of years ago but they grasped defeat from the jaws of trophy success to that gigantic club Birmingham. Maybe the FA Cup is not a forgone conclusion.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

They don't stop counting but surely to judge Wengers success right now you need to look at current times

And I wouldn't count the FA Cup just yet.

You have spent £150mil in three years - what return would you expect from that ?

It depends on what you call success Arsenal driven by Wenger have built a luxury stadium and financed it them selves without dropping out of the top 4 in a period where most of the clubs around them have spent massively

Arsenal do not have a net spend of £150mil all monies spent until this season have been recouped by player sales

Success for the top clubs is measured in trophies - that's the aim for the big teams - silverware, the lack of that silverware for Arsenal is why you keep losing your top players.

Most of the other clubs have spent massively - they have also won the trophies

Arsenal have bought £150mil pounds worth of players in 3 seasons - what success has those players brought to Arsenal

 

[freddielong]

Not bad going is it, net spend of 50M. That is only because everyone leaves Arsenal once a better offer comes along as they want ot go and win trophies. Toure, Nasri, Fabregas, Song, RVP, Cole, Adabeyour, just to name a few. That is why you have such a good nett spend, because no one wants to stay at Arsenal. It must be frustrating to see players of those abilities walking away all the time.

The only one I would keep would be Cesc but he was always going to go to Barca, the above only highlights Wengers successfor me given the constraints he was working to, and you cannot blame a player for leaving if the club has had to change there priorities to secure a long term future. A playing career is short they want to win things which again highlights Wengers loyalty given that he has been offered the managers job at every major team in club football during that time as well as a number of international roles.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

The only one I would keep would be Cesc but he was always going to go to Barca, the above only highlights Wengers successfor me given the constraints he was working to, and you cannot blame a player for leaving if the club has had to change there priorities to secure a long term future. A playing career is short they want to win things which again highlights Wengers loyalty given that he has been offered the managers job at every major team in club football during that time as well as a number of international roles.

Which management jobs has he been "offered" ?

 

[anotherdouble]

Arsenal do not have a net spend of £150mil all monies spent until this season have been recouped by player sales

So are you saying that a club like Arsenal in plain simple terms are just a selling club. Don't want to win anything but just make money by selling players. Oh what joy the fans have got to look forward to each August. Very nice stadium, extortionate ticket prices and a top four finish

 

[freddielong]

Success for the top clubs is measured in trophies - that's the aim for the big teams - silverware, the lack of that silverware for Arsenal is why you keep losing your top players.

Most of the other clubs have spent massively - they have also won the trophies

Arsenal have bought £150mil pounds worth of players in 3 seasons - what success has those players brought to Arsenal

They have sold £120mil worth of players in the last 3 seasons so you cannot say that they have a spend of £30mil over 3 seasons

Liverpool have a net spend of £85mil and haven't even been in the top 4 till this season

 

[freddielong]

So are you saying that a club like Arsenal in plain simple terms are just a selling club. Don't want to win anything but just make money by selling players. Oh what joy the fans have got to look forward to each August. Very nice stadium, extortionate ticket prices and a top four finish

no I am saying that they have had to be to finance the stadium they are no longer

 

[Deleted member 15344]

They have sold £120mil worth of players in the last 3 seasons so you cannot say that they have a spend of £30mil over 3 seasons

Liverpool have a net spend of £85mil and haven't even been in the top 4 till this season

Think you are missing the point by a long way.

Net spend doesn't change the fact that you spent millions on players to get no success on the field in 9 years now.

That lack of success is why players keep leaving

You spent over £40mil on one player alone this season - has it moved you forward ? Doesn't appear so.

 

[freddielong]

Think you are missing the point by a long way.

Net spend doesn't change the fact that you spent millions on players to get no success on the field in 9 years now.

That lack of success is why players keep leaving

You spent over £40mil on one player alone this season - has it moved you forward ? Doesn't appear so.

No I think you miss the point I love Arsene Wenger I want him to manage Arsenal, I know he is getting older and one day he will want to hang up his unzippable sleeping bag coat and retire and when he does I will be very sad.

 

[Papas1982]

I think wenger is a brilliant attacking coach. But I think his best years were built on a strong defence he inherited. He has undoubtably changed the face of English Footy and should he leave I think he'll be sorely missed. Young players leave clubs to play for him as much as arsenal.

I would imagine there there aren't many clubs that wouldn't settle for arsenals perceived failure in recent years. The stadium will reap benefits in the long run. And if the fair play rules ever actually work then arsenal will be in a great position.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

No I think you miss the point I love Arsene Wenger I want him to manage Arsenal, I know he is getting older and one day he will want to hang up his unzippable sleeping bag coat and retire and when he does I will be very sad.

But he isn't winning you any competitions - do you not want to win anything ? Your team has the most expensive tickets by a long way yet your fans got no reward for that price.

Have you got the list of the manager jobs he has been "offered"

 

[Dodger]

I got ridiculed on here 3 years back when I said he was vastly over hyped.

Still not won anything and let's face it the FA Cup is a sideshow nowadays but desperate times and all that......

 

[anotherdouble]

The futures bright the futures.........Arsenal. How long can the fans live off the back of a very nice paid for stadium, over inflated ticket prices, stars that arrive play then leave because they want to win trophies, achieve 4th position in the league and be trophy less. But we have got the best manager in the world.