Are you cheating if you don't know the rules?

Yeah been high handicapper since I started, I know that it's a penalty if you drop your ball after hitting it into a water hazard yep

Your ball is in water and you can't play it. Apply my Rule 2. Go back to where you were - drop your ball - add one shot - play on.
 
Does it really matter?

If you dont know the rule, someone will, and will tell you, or you might know and your playing partner not so one person can inform the other and someone has learnt something.

All good and pleasant. Let's have less of this cheat nonsense, were not professionals, were enthusiasts who play the game as a hobby.

Some of you sound like a right bundle of laughs to play with! I hope it's not like that on a forum meet, I'd rather not go if that was the case, being accused of cheating for not knowing an oscure rule! Never heard anything so ridiculous in my life!
 
He replied that red stakes meant only 1 club length. I had to get the rule book out to prove to him it was in fact 2. So all his golfing life he was playing to the rule he believed to be correct.

Useful rule of thumb I use Amanda is if your getting a penalty its 2 club lengths, if not its 1 club length i.e relief from staked tree etc
 
Your ball is in water and you can't play it. Apply my Rule 2. Go back to where you were - drop your ball - add one shot - play on.

It depends on whether its a lateral water hazard I think, if its off the tee you can take 3 off the tee, you can take 1 drop shot in the line of the ball entering the water hazard. But I would revert to the rule book for dropping options.
By the way at my club there are no water hazards at all but I still have a basic understanding
 
Does it really matter?

If you dont know the rule, someone will, and will tell you, or you might know and your playing partner not so one person can inform the other and someone has learnt something.

All good and pleasant. Let's have less of this cheat nonsense, were not professionals, were enthusiasts who play the game as a hobby.

Some of you sound like a right bundle of laughs to play with! I hope it's not like that on a forum meet, I'd rather not go if that was the case, being accused of cheating for not knowing an oscure rule! Never heard anything so ridiculous in my life!

Kind of sums up my feelings on this. If I make a genuine mistake my playing partners may choose to pull me up - if thats the case then fair enough, I'll just take it on the chin and move. I don't play in comps and just play as a hobby/with mates.
 
Someone I know plays football to a pretty high level and I asked him hat the ruling would be if the goalkeeper kicked the ball from a goal-kick and the wind blew the ball back towards him and into the goal.

He didn't know the ruling.

Cheat.

off topic I know but common sense would say its an OG, I'm assuming its not that straightforward?
 
Not knowing a rule is one thing, but not making the effort to learn them is something else, akin to cheating.
 
Kind of sums up my feelings on this. If I make a genuine mistake my playing partners may choose to pull me up - if thats the case then fair enough, I'll just take it on the chin and move. I don't play in comps and just play as a hobby/with mates.

This. I apply the most basic rules when i play (penalty shots when i go in hazards, no grounding clubs in bunkers etc) but i'd rather not spend my leisure time worrying which twigs around my ball i can move and which i can't so don't really have any interest in playing competitvely.

That said i think if you do choose to play comps you have a duty to know the rules. And much like the law ignorance is no defence.
 
It depends on whether its a lateral water hazard I think, if its off the tee you can take 3 off the tee, you can take 1 drop shot in the line of the ball entering the water hazard. But I would revert to the rule book for dropping options.
By the way at my club there are no water hazards at all but I still have a basic understanding

Yes you can revert to the rule book - or just use my Rule 2 as you cannot go wrong if you do. And you keep hitting the ball - adhering to Rule 1 and applying Rule 2 when necessary until your ball is in the bottom of the hole. Then you count up your shots and penalties. Jobs a good un - and not a cheat in sight
 
Yes you can revert to the rule book - or just use my Rule 2 as you cannot go wrong if you do. And you keep hitting the ball - adhering to Rule 1 and applying Rule 2 when necessary until your ball is in the bottom of the hole. Then you count up your shots and penalties. Jobs a good un - and not a cheat in sight

And in doing so you would end up with a worse score than you need to.
The rules are there to assist as well as penalize.
 
The ball technically isn't in play from a goal kick until someone touches it so it would be a corner kick.

so if the keeper kicks it all the way into the other goal without touching someone its a goal kick? That can't be right!

sorry for off topic OP
 
Point of the thread.....

Based on a few occurrences (both in comps and in friendly play) I have a feeling when I play a comp that I'm playing against 100 other golfers and AT LEAST HALF of them, if not more, are playing a totally different game to me.... one where they can move obstacles in hazards, ground their clubs, build stances in bunkers and take illegal drops all over the course that either afford them a good lie or line of sight to the flag....

....and it's beginning to grate on me.
 
Point of the thread.....

Based on a few occurrences (both in comps and in friendly play) I have a feeling when I play a comp that I'm playing against 100 other golfers and AT LEAST HALF of them, if not more, are playing a totally different game to me.... one where they can move obstacles in hazards, ground their clubs, build stances in bunkers and take illegal drops all over the course that either afford them a good lie or line of sight to the flag....

....and it's beginning to grate on me.

But James.
You are assuming that you always get it right
:D
 
Point of the thread.....

Based on a few occurrences (both in comps and in friendly play) I have a feeling when I play a comp that I'm playing against 100 other golfers and AT LEAST HALF of them, if not more, are playing a totally different game to me.... one where they can move obstacles in hazards, ground their clubs, build stances in bunkers and take illegal drops all over the course that either afford them a good lie or line of sight to the flag....

....and it's beginning to grate on me.

James.

Resolve your problem by considering that if they are consistent in their rule breaking, then their handicap reflects this.

When they play against you, you are in a position to correct their aberrations and will have an advantage.

And as Robobum posted a while ago....It's only a game!
 
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