Are we obsessed with number nowadays?

[Foxholer]

Trackman, Flightscope etc can be a great teaching or comparison tools. The data provided gives instant feedback that shows the benefit of what the customer/fitter or coach/student are able to achieve. Awareness is fine; obsession is daft!

 

[the_coach]

real unusual for an am to be fitted with a 7.5º driver most folks would get nowhere near a club head speed that would make that loft a viable option to give a workable launch angle.

having the 'numbers' to give quantifiable repeatable facts to what exactly is going on with motion & impact allows the golfer freedom to have a 'feel' of what an optimum swing motion is.

but key though is the fitter/Pro having the knowledge smarts to properly understand the data & how to translate what that means to folks for fits or lessons.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I like to use numbers, especially in lessons and if I am getting fitted. I know my distances and that's all I need.

 

[BubbaP]

Not everything that counts can be counted and not everything that can be counted counts.

Like that :thup:

 

[Farneyman]

I like numbers and stats but only in the scoring area. Having used ScoreSaver2 for years and now more recently GameGolf I love all the information these give me. As far as any other numbers go I have no need for them.

However I am really looking forward to my custom fitting session on Monday :thup:

 

[USER1999]

A low lofted driver can be specified because you hit it way on the up side, or, because you chop down on it, and less loft reduces the spin.

 

[Crawfy]

I've used Flightscope for past two years with my pro and have loved the numbers. We have used them to evidence the improvements we are looking to make. But to make them we are using feeling and visualisation drills. I agree that you can get obsessed. In terms of club choice, I always go for looks first and look for ways to improve the numbers if required. Just personal preference

 

[MashieNiblick]

Be interested in the extent to which people have experienced any actual relationship between improving the numbers on flightscope/trackman etc into improving the numbers they write on the card, which after all are the only ones that matter.

 

[Oddsocks]

I ask the question as recently i was fitted for a driver with a 7.5 degree loft on it as the numbers were spot on for that day and irons because the numbers were good, now I've got rid of both and got clubs with a 12 degree driver and irons with a different flex shaft as these clubs feel much better and easier to use. Another point is lessons the lad i use a very knowledge able guy uses Trackman for his lessons, you must get the club on this path this attack angle etc. Is or has feel gone out of the game we play and taken over by numbers, thoughts?

I think it has Steve. Prime example is I have cf irons at the moment, everything says they should be right for me, yet bad days are a total car crash. The other night I was at the range and the brother in law was with me with his old Wilson sgi irons in reg flex. My swing at the moment isn't solid and can be hit and miss, but 5 six irons in the bounce and all match or beat my current cf bats.

Not kbs stiff shafts - off the peg flexi regular
Not -1* - stock loft/lie
Not forged
Not two extra layers of tape
Just £41.00 eBay bargains.

Really did contemplate just buying an old set of gi irons in a weakish stiff and hacking with what forgives not what looks good!

 

[One Planer]

I know pro's such as Justin Rose (Coached by Sean Foley) base most of there work on Trackman figures.

For me, I'm more concerned about how the ball flies, how far it goes and where it lands.

I don't have the time, money or, if I'm honest, inclination to spend all day hitting balls in search of the perfect numbers.

Give me a swing that putts the ball (... Roughly) where I'm aiming and at a distance effective enough to play the game well and I'm happy :thup:

 

[Paul77]

I'm a bit of both. I used the numbers in my lessons to get a better understanding of strike and how the relates to ball flight. I also deliberately came across the ball and in to out to see what those numbers looked like too. It was useful. However on the course I tend to use both feel and instructed swing to get myself around. Part of the reason my scores have dropped a lot lately. ( I think)