Are my Taylormade r7 TP Irons counterfeits?

[GreiginFife]

Look at the photos. You can clearly see it under the surface of the shaft.

Ok, lets assume you are right. Look at the picture. You see where the light from the flash reflects in a straight line, horizontally, across the shaft? Now, if that was carbon fibre woven together in herringbone, it would reflect the light in different directions. Try it on a piece of CF and see what happens. What I can see in that picture is a finish MADE TO LOOK LIKE CARBON FIBRE WEAVE. Which is either a pain or vinyl wrap finish (usually paint print finished in the factory).

 

[Olivavu]

Honestly, these look genuine to me.

Head are shaft look real but I can only be 100% sure when I see one in the flesh.

That is the response to the photos I attached to the first post in this thread.

Sounds good to me!

 

[USER1999]

Visible carbon weave is used on bike frames, bike front forks, golf shafts, car interior dash trim, all sorts. It's a decorative finish, that is laquered over to make it look part of the actual material. I have some stickers with this weave on in a drawer at home. You can stick them on anything, and make it look all carbonfibre'y. It is not a functional part of the equipment. Weave that wide would be useless.

 

[GreiginFife]

Visible carbon weave is used on bike frames, bike front forks, golf shafts, car interior dash trim, all sorts. It's a decorative finish, that is laquered over to make it look part of the actual material. I have some stickers with this weave on in a drawer at home. You can stick them on anything, and make it look all carbonfibre'y. It is not a functional part of the equipment. Weave that wide would be useless.

Thank you ^^^

 

[Alex1975]

Its not relevent if its a finish or an actual weave in this case, the OP just wants to know if his are real or not, if they put an effect/weave on the real ones for that set of clubs or not.

but.... to be a nob.... My driver shaft has a very obvious weave in it, Graphite Design used a clear final coat rather than most often used a colour/black finish to show off how nicely they lay there fiber cloth, I think its just a resin top coat.

 

[Alex1975]

Its not relevent if its a finish or an actual weave in this case, the OP just wants to know if his are real or not, if they put an effect/weave on the real ones for that set of clubs or not.

but.... to be a nob.... My driver shaft has a very obvious weave in it, Graphite Design used a clear final coat rather than most often used a colour/black finish to show off how nicely they lay there fiber cloth, I think its just a resin top coat.

Click to enlarge the sexyness!

 

[Olivavu]

It is clearly visible UNDER the surface of the club on my r7 Superquad.

I am not claiming that it has a specific purpose, but it is clearly there - as shown in the photos I have posted and on the Golfbidder guide to counterfeit clubs.

I have said that I am not sure if this aesthetic is on the TP85 REAX shaft, but it is clearly visible on other shafts.

But it is not painted on the surface of the club. That I can assure you of.

 

[Alex1975]

It is clearly visible UNDER the surface of the club on my r7 Superquad.

I am not claiming that it has a specific purpose, but it is clearly there - as shown in the photos I have posted and on the Golfbidder guide to counterfeit clubs.

I have said that I am not sure if this aesthetic is on the TP85 REAX shaft, but it is clearly visible on other shafts.

But it is not painted on the surface of the club. That I can assure you of.

Ye but what the guys are saying it is may be layed in as a graphic then coated with a clear resin to make it deeper. I have a feeling they may be right but as I have stated, it really does not matter if it is asthetic or actual weave, all that matter is, should it be there or not on the model you are trying to authenticate....

 

[SimonS]

Ignoring the shaft, how accurate are the colours in the picture of the head in the first post?

Comparing that picture with those for sale on the Golfbidder website the yellow edgeing seems to be the wrong shade and the red P in the TP logo seems too dull also. It may be the angle of the camera but I'm also not sure that the perimeter of the casting is the same shape.

 

[Olivavu]

Exactly.

I am not debating it's purpose or how it is incorporated, I am just saying that it is there on other REAX shafts.

 

[Olivavu]

 

[Olivavu]

There are some other used r7 tp irons, including mine, and the original photo from Taylormade.

 

[USER1999]

What normally differentiates fakes is the fonts used for the type on the head is never quite right. You need to compare photos of the real thing with yours, looking at the shapes of the letters and logos. Paint fill is often another give away as above.

 

[Alex1975]

If they are fake they are good as I said before.... Fonts look right to me... the yellow does not look quite the same but that could be age.

 

[SimonS]

If we assume (safely I think) that the 5th of those pictures is genuine since it comes from Taylormade then one could argue that picture 3 is the only other genuine club due to the way the TP badge is aligned in the cavity (straight in relation to the black backing). I think however that there must be variations in the layout according to the iron number.

Now I'm confused!

 

[Olivavu]

I have looked at loads of photos of different r7 tp irons and had the same thoughts and concerns!

I think the best I can go on is that my friend at Taylormade (in Basingstoke), says he thinks they are real. Next time I am down that way to see the in-laws, I shall pop in and see him and take the clubs with me so he can have a proper close-up look.

I really appreciate all the help and advice from people here though.

Comparing the photos I posted brings up all kinds of different concerns and thoughts though!

 

[GreiginFife]

Ye but what the guys are saying it is may be layed in as a graphic then coated with a clear resin to make it deeper. I have a feeling they may be right but as I have stated, it really does not matter if it is asthetic or actual weave, all that matter is, should it be there or not on the model you are trying to authenticate....

Point I made Alex was that this "decorative effect" as that's all it is, is used on some but not all models dependant on age or the model. For example, the Re-Ax 65 on a 2008 model has yellow writing but on the 2010 it's red. Doesn't make it counterfeit is what I'm saying.

PS: Lovely Graphite Design shaft BTW.

 

[BeachGolfer]

Non-visible weaves: REAX shafts
Visible weaves: Rombax REAX shafts, Wayne Rooney

 

[Olivavu]

That is useful and interesting.

My r7 Superquad has it. Does that have a Rombax?

 

[BeachGolfer]

Does its say Rombax Technology on it?