Old Skier
Tour Winner
The annual review report should not be used alone and is only a guide which should be used with ALL available information and should not be used in isolation.
Annual Review
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i might be getting the wrong end of the stick here, but why would you expect a cut for not playing below your handicap all year and making buffer a few times.
I find the buffer is 2 shots over CSS at my course and that usually means i get away without a 0.1, which is bonus enough, as ive played crap most of the time!
I find the buffer is 2 shots over CSS at my course and that usually means i get away without a 0.1, which is bonus enough, as ive played crap most of the time!
Region3
Ryder Cup Winner
Because "they" consider that your handicap is too high if you can make buffer x% of the time.
sawtooth
Tour Winner
Totally agree
"Annual Review Report Period 01/01/2013 to 20/11/2013
Use of the Report
This report is designed to assist the Club's Handicap Committee when carrying out the Annual Review..
The Report identifies players who potentially require a handicap adjustment.
Players listed in the Report should NOT receive an adjustment automatically. The full handicap record of a player should be examined before any decision is reached. Whether highlighted by the report or not the performance of all who have received a handicap in the review period players should be scrutinised.
It must be stressed that ONLY players who have returned 3 or more Qualifying scores in the period are included in the Report. Players who returned fewer scores may require adjustment based on performances (note more than one) in other forms of competition (Matchplay, four-ball, etc) or non-Qualifying competitions, considered by the Committee to be better than average for the player's handicap.
The statement 'with other information' indicates that the player returned too few scores to give sufficient accuracy to the forecast. These players should be decreased only when other information supports the adjustment.
The general principles as set out in Appendix M of the UHS Handicap Manual should be followed when conducting the Review.
Important Notes:
It should be emphasised that the Report should not be used as a substitute for the Committee's judgement, and all players listed should be considered carefully with any other information available before any adjustment is made.
There may well be players, whom the Committee consider require adjustment, who have not been identified in this report. Just as a player identified for consideration should not be given an automatic adjustment, so a player not identified in the report is not precluded for consideration for adjustment.
The report is based on a computer model, supported by typical scoring patterns for each handicap. However the nature of the game, and how it is played, mean that assessments based on scoring patterns can never be 100% accurate.
The handicaps predicted by the model have a wider spread of uncertainty as the number of scores used in the individual assessment decreases.
The Report has been designed after considerable research, but it is considered that it may be improved in the light of experience from widespread application. If any Committee wishes to submit data to CONGU that they consider would be helpful, they should do so via their Handicapping Authority.
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Foxholer
Blackballed
i might be getting the wrong end of the stick here, but why would you expect a cut for not playing below your handicap all year and making buffer a few times.
I find the buffer is 2 shots over CSS at my course and that usually means i get away without a 0.1, which is bonus enough, as ive played crap most of the time!
Refer Post 12. Or the link in Post 10.
Summarised... A/R Report identifies those whose average score is significantly less than would be expected by a player of that handicap.
rosecott
Money List Winner
i might be getting the wrong end of the stick here, but why would you expect a cut for not playing below your handicap all year and making buffer a few times.
I find the buffer is 2 shots over CSS at my course and that usually means i get away without a 0.1, which is bonus enough, as ive played crap most of the time!
My understanding of what you are saying is that you are normally within buffer - CSS+2 for your handicap category. To me that would olace you as a prime candidate for a reduction recommendation on Annual Review.
Foxholer
Blackballed
In P148's case, I don't believe it would as the 'average more than 3 shots below expectation criteria' probably wouldn't be triggered - Average of 8.99 is his 'expected' score.
But your statement certainly applies to higher handicap folk.
here's one for you then;
21 home comps
7 buffer
6 cuts none more than 0.6
and 8 X 0.1
though some of these were off 7.
surely i shouldn't be con for review?
Foxholer
Blackballed
How many times do you need to be told that it's AVERAGE score that counts for A/R!
But given that that looks a fairly typical sort of results for someone who has come down a shot or 2, I'd say no. You can always do the checking from the link in Post 10.
rosecott
Money List Winner
Your statement of normally in buffer suggested to me a higher proportion of buffers than 13 out of 21.
rosecott
Money List Winner
His original statement suggesting "normally in buffer" could have put him at less than 3 nett of MGD.
i didn't say i was " normally in Buffer"
Anyway at least i can count on not getting cut by review, Mybe I'll play in the Trilby tour next year
rosecott
Money List Winner
i didn't say i was " normally in Buffer"
Anyway at least i can count on not getting cut by review, Mybe I'll play in the Trilby tour next year
I'll be looking out for you if I can still afford Sky next year.
Junior
Tour Winner
This thread is interesting....can I gauge opinion, or does anyone know as to whether the computer will cut me based on this . . . . .
My season has gone .....6 cuts, 4 x 0.1's back and 1 buffer. The largest cut was 0.8, I've had 4 x 0.4 cuts and 1 x 0.2 cut. So, apart from the 0.8 cut, which was in our last qualifier (beat my h/cap by 5 shots, but ss was 1 under) I've only been beating my handicap only by a couple of shots.
My qualifiers have gone :-
10.7 > 10.3 > 9.9 > 9.5 > 9.5 >9.6 > 9.2 > 9.3 > 9.1 > 9.2 > 9.3 > 8.5
thanks
jnr
My season has gone .....6 cuts, 4 x 0.1's back and 1 buffer. The largest cut was 0.8, I've had 4 x 0.4 cuts and 1 x 0.2 cut. So, apart from the 0.8 cut, which was in our last qualifier (beat my h/cap by 5 shots, but ss was 1 under) I've only been beating my handicap only by a couple of shots.
My qualifiers have gone :-
10.7 > 10.3 > 9.9 > 9.5 > 9.5 >9.6 > 9.2 > 9.3 > 9.1 > 9.2 > 9.3 > 8.5
thanks
jnr
rulefan
Tour Winner
What were your gross scores and the CSSs?
Junior
Tour Winner
Scores are below rulefan. Par is 71 and css was level in all bar the last comp where it was 1 under. My 41 points was a 4 over gross. I dont think i'll get cut (unfortunately) as ive mostly been around my handicap.
D
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You won't be touched at the annual review
pbrown7582
Money List Winner
Old Skier
Tour Winner
Not sure how you can say that without knowing the results of other comps that the player may have played in.
