And, we're off.....2016/17

[sawtooth]

Was Vardy Leicesters crown Jewel, or 1 of them last year🤔

Yes and Arsenal attempted to buy with their own funds. Couldn't go over what they valued the player at. There's thea disadvantage right there. Chelsea has no limit , your benefactor has no concept of P&L. It's play money.

I couldn't enjoy winning that way , pointless and empty.

 

[anotherdouble]

They try, but they won't go, Vardy turned them down and at his stage of his career that speaks volumes.

The rolling eyes didnt work. I would have thought Sanchez, Ozil, cech, Kos, and others were some clubs top players but I must be wrong because Arsenal don't do that.

 

[sawtooth]

You need to look at the balance of spending and selling. Great business by Chelsea, but not Arsenal. The nett is in Chelsea's favour both in terms of the balance sheet and league positions in the last 10 years. Looks like Arsenal aren't that good with money after all.

Great business? that is hilarious and naive in the extreme. £1Billlion of Oil money ploughed in and counting. That is honestly quite funny.

 

[Hobbit]

Yes and Arsenal attempted to buy with their own funds. Couldn't go over what they valued the player at. There's thea disadvantage right there. Chelsea has no limit , your benefactor has no concept of P&L. It's play money.

I couldn't enjoy winning that way , pointless and empty.

But to repeat something I posted a month or so back you clearly said in the run up to this season this was the time Arsenal would spend... but now you've changed your mind because even though you were willing to spend you still couldn't attract the players...

 

[Hobbit]

Great business? that is hilarious and naive in the extreme. £1Billlion of Oil money ploughed in and counting. That is honestly quite funny.

You can't hide from the facts. Arsenal's nett loss is in the transfer market is greater than Chelsea's. Do you seriously think its funny to have a worse balance sheet than a competitor?

And not only do Chelsea have a better balance sheet in the transfer market, they've taken in even more in winnings from winning the league, being higher up in the league and winning a CL. If you think that's not better business by Chelsea you need your bumps read.

 

[sawtooth]

The rolling eyes didnt work. I would have thought Sanchez, Ozil, cech, Kos, and others were some clubs top players but I must be wrong because Arsenal don't do that.

No Arsenal do , you're not wrong. That's the natural food chain in football.

What you're wrong about is the source of income. Football generated through success on the pitch versus a unlimited external source of money from Rich benefactors.

The things are quite different.

Do you honestly think the Chelsea of 14 years ago would have gotten to where they are without that money?

It could have been Spurs or anyone else but it was Chelsea.

If that floats your boat good luck to you but I'm grateful that Arsenal don't go that way.

It would feel hollow and empty , not a real victory in my book.

I'd rather carry on with near misses and playing nice football like 95% of the rest of the football league.

Respect to Spurs, Liverpool, even Utd and the others. But City and Chelsea? Nah not for me. It's a lie.

 

[sawtooth]

You can't hide from the facts. Arsenal's nett loss is in the transfer market is greater than Chelsea's. Do you seriously think its funny to have a worse balance sheet than a competitor?

And not only do Chelsea have a better balance sheet in the transfer market, they've taken in even more in winnings from winning the league, being higher up in the league and winning a CL. If you think that's not better business by Chelsea you need your bumps read.

Obviously foundation was built that way, in recent years the football generated money from the club has caught up . You're conveniently or negligently ignoring the massive cash injection in formative years starting 2003.

No embarrassment to have a worse balance sheet against that of Chelsea's. A proud Gooner and if that makes me a loser so be it. I'd rather it that way than the alternative.

 

[Hobbit]

No Arsenal do , you're not wrong. That's the natural food chain in football.

What you're wrong about is the source of income. Football generated through success on the pitch versus a unlimited external source of money from Rich benefactors.

The things are quite different.

Do you honestly think the Chelsea of 14 years ago would have gotten to where they are without that money?

It could have been Spurs or anyone else but it was Chelsea.

If that floats your boat good luck to you but I'm grateful that Arsenal don't go that way.

It would feel hollow and empty , not a real victory in my book.

I'd rather carry on with near misses and playing nice football like 95% of the rest of the football league.

Respect to Spurs, Liverpool, even Utd and the others. But City and Chelsea? Nah not for me. It's a lie.

Do you think that without money Arsenal would be playing at the Emirates or still at Highbury? If you're going to widen the argument, which team has spent the most on grounds in the last 14 years? This isn't one you can win in terms of overall balance sheets.

Arsenal chose to spend on the ground, not players. But, as you said in the close season, the ground is paid for now...

 

[sawtooth]

But to repeat something I posted a month or so back you clearly said in the run up to this season this was the time Arsenal would spend... but now you've changed your mind because even though you were willing to spend you still couldn't attract the players...

And we did spend and we'll spend again and again. But there's a limit to our spending, a responsibility to our spending, thats the important difference that you are somehow not grasping.

We could all do better if we spent reckless amounts of cash without any fear of losing it.

 

[anotherdouble]

No Arsenal do , you're not wrong. That's the natural food chain in football.

What you're wrong about is the source of income. Football generated through success on the pitch versus a unlimited external source of money from Rich benefactors.

The things are quite different.

Do you honestly think the Chelsea of 14 years ago would have gotten to where they are without that money?

It could have been Spurs or anyone else but it was Chelsea.

If that floats your boat good luck to you but I'm grateful that Arsenal don't go that way.

It would feel hollow and empty , not a real victory in my book.

I'd rather carry on with near misses and playing nice football like 95% of the rest of the football league.

Respect to Spurs, Liverpool, even Utd and the others. But City and Chelsea? Nah not for me. It's a lie.

Takes a big man to publicly admit he wants to be a loser all his life so respect

 

[jp5]

Imagine dropping your best player. Can't work it out.

 

[Hobbit]

And we did spend and we'll spend again and again. But there's a limit to our spending, a responsibility to our spending, thats the important difference that you are somehow not grasping.

We could all do better if we spent reckless amounts of cash without any fear of losing it.

How on earth can you claim to be responsible spenders in the transfer market when your balance sheet is worse than Chelsea's, who you decry?

 

[anotherdouble]

Imagine dropping your best player. Can't work it out.

Wenger obviously thought Sutton was a tougher game as didn't he start against rhem

 

[Slime]

I would be disappointed if Mings gets a ban for that, it looks to me that he is trying to jump to the side of Ibra and chase the play as Utd are attacking. If he wanted to stamp he would have properly hit him and not just clipped his pony tail.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:.
You are either trolling, being ironic or just mentally barren ................... which is it?

 

[jp5]

Wenger obviously thought Sutton was a tougher game as didn't he start against rhem

Came on as a sub against Sutton. Got to start your strongest team, was Wenger making a point? Has become toxic at the club sadly.

 

[Hobbit]

Came on as a sub against Sutton. Got to start your strongest team, was Wenger making a point? Has become toxic at the club sadly.

Two seasons ago I thought Wenger was a demi-god. Not anymore. Sadly, I agree with you. Time to be put out to pasture.

 

[anotherdouble]

Came on as a sub against Sutton. Got to start your strongest team, was Wenger making a point? Has become toxic at the club sadly.

Cheers for Correcting me sir. Much appreciated

 

[clubchamp98]

Two seasons ago I thought Wenger was a demi-god. Not anymore. Sadly, I agree with you. Time to be put out to pasture.

Great display from the Reds.
But couldn't believe you left your most dangerous player on the bench.
Liverpool overran Arsenal first half and it could have been over by half time.
Good fight back by Arsenal second half but it is obvious there is problems with the balance of the team.
Apart from the goal I can only remember Minolet making one save.
If Firminno had stayed on his feet instead of trying for penalty and gave the ball away but three passes later it's in our net.
Good goal but was preventable.
We have given to many goals like that away this season.
Only real frustration is consistency where was that team against Leicster.

 

[Hobbit]

Great display from the Reds.
But couldn't believe you left your most dangerous player on the bench.
Liverpool overran Arsenal first half and it could have been over by half time.
Good fight back by Arsenal second half but it is obvious there is problems with the balance of the team.
Apart from the goal I can only remember Minolet making one save.
If Firminno had stayed on his feet instead of trying for penalty and gave the ball away but three passes later it's in our net.
Good goal but was preventable.
We have given to many goals like that away this season.
Only real frustration is consistency where was that team against Leicster.

Wish he was our most dangerous player, but I'm a Middlesbrough fan.

 

[sawtooth]

Two seasons ago I thought Wenger was a demi-god. Not anymore. Sadly, I agree with you. Time to be put out to pasture.

Even if he makes top 4? and possibly FA cup?

What are you expecting exactly?

Klopp, Poch or Mourinho make top 4 this year and they roll out the red carpet.

Yet if Wenger does it you would get rid of him? Serious question if you were the Chairman would you sack Wenger?