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When Hart is your best player - BY A MILE, you know something is wrong with personnel and tactics. This is very very poor by England.


There are no outstanding candidates not in the team. Southgate could perhaps have picked one or two different but it would be like shifting the deck-chairs on the Titanic.

We just do not have sufficient good players available to the manager.
 

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Time for the new look England to stand up and be counted tonight,great chance once and for all to show we are moving in the right direction.

I believe it is a good time to drop Rooney as he has not played his best for a while now,however if we are going down the road of form players where is Drinkwater.

This could be the making of Henderson or he could fall flat on his face,i do hope he does well as we need a England playing good football.

Somebody pick Henderson up it was the latter
 

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I'm struggling to recall the last time England looked dangerous. Maybe one of them got dressed as a clown recently.

The last time an English footballer looked dangerous was when Adam Johnson was in possession of a mobile phone and the local high school phone book. :D
 
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Worst performance in a long long time. Sorry Gareth, you've took us backwards in just 2 games.
 

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Wonder what more proof there needs to be before fans realise this is the level we are at, this is the new normal. We are at the level of the Slovenias, Austrias, Switzerlands and Paraguays of this world. Has there ever been such a disconnect in any country between the quality of a national league and the national team? Chuff knows how we got to be top seeded for a group when Italy and Spain are in the same group.
 

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Worst performance in a long long time. Sorry Gareth, you've took us backwards in just 2 games.

Hardly his fault, inherited a team with zero confidence and (very) limited ability who probably can't wait to get back to their club sides and play with some half decent players.
 
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Hardly his fault, inherited a team with zero confidence and (very) limited ability who probably can't wait to get back to their club sides and play with some half decent players.
It was worse than the Euros and Sam's 1 game, they didn't look this useless, so why suddenly a down turn in form, why no confidence, what's happened to cause that?
 

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To slow, to static.
Don't really see the worth of Walcott, Dier or Walker.
Obviously we are World beaters looking at the wages they earn, but in reality they can't beat a team with a player from the German 2nd division.
 

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Played with no confidence. Unsure first touches, no movement and no cutting edge. I don't know the cause but I think it was a wake up call for Southgate about just how hard this job will be if gets the post. He has a lot of work to do before the next game
 
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It was worse than the Euros and Sam's 1 game, they didn't look this useless, so why suddenly a down turn in form, why no confidence, what's happened to cause that?

Sorry but this is merely a continuation of what has been going on for years, including the Euro's where we were pathetic.

We haven't got the players, as successive managers have all found.

Like Hacker said there is a massive disconnect between the standard of the PL (where the best players are foreign) and the national team.
 

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Why are England obsessed with players who have pace? There's no point if as a player, you have no idea how to best utilise it. When was the last time we ripped a team apart using pace, yet the media seem obsessed with it.
 
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