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No he certainly didn't say nothing at all. Everybody who saw the footage saw clear as day that Poch was about to walk away, and then something Dean said incensed him and that's when he got right in his face.

Mike dean is simply the worst referee in the premier league. He loves himself too much and try’s to make the game about him
 

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He could quite simply have dismissed him (not sent off, just been a little condescending).

Either way, the whole point is refs are meant to be respected, so unles she’s said something absolutely outrageous then there is no defending him.

After a match when sky or whoever are pressing a manager for a reaction and they lose it a little, I’ll support a manager and say that they shouldn’t have to answer leading questions. But during the game and on the pitch the managers and players are meant to be respectful.
You earn respect. Not a single thing about Mike Dean says he deserves respect to me.
 
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Just watched the Poch thing on twitter, Poch is walking away after the first confrontation then turns around and has a go, you can hear the 3 Spurs guys saying the following:

Toni Jimenez replies ‘You’ll never work again.’

-Jesus Perez ‘Don’t say that. (numerous times)

-Pochettino ‘say that again, say that again, Say that for the camera.’

Doesn’t look good either way.

Refs comms are recorded though aren’t they, isn’t that how Clattenburg escaped the racism accusations/comments against Chelsea a few years back?
 

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Just watched the Poch thing on twitter, Poch is walking away after the first confrontation then turns around and has a go, you en it suits can hear the 3 Spurs guys saying the following:

Toni Jimenez replies ‘You’ll never work again.’

-Jesus Perez ‘Don’t say that. (numerous times)

-Pochettino ‘say that again, say that again, Say that for the camera.’

Doesn’t look good either way.

Refs comms are recorded though aren’t they, isn’t that how Clattenburg escaped the racism accusations/comments against Chelsea a few years back?
Only when it suits them.
 

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Just watched the Poch thing on twitter, Poch is walking away after the first confrontation then turns around and has a go, you can hear the 3 Spurs guys saying the following:

Toni Jimenez replies ‘You’ll never work again.’

-Jesus Perez ‘Don’t say that. (numerous times)

-Pochettino ‘say that again, say that again, Say that for the camera.’

Doesn’t look good either way.

Refs comms are recorded though aren’t they, isn’t that how Clattenburg escaped the racism accusations/comments against Chelsea a few years back?
Yeah, he certainly seems to have said something unprofessional at the very least. I hope it's looked into.
 

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Just watched the Poch thing on twitter, Poch is walking away after the first confrontation then turns around and has a go, you can hear the 3 Spurs guys saying the following:

Toni Jimenez replies ‘You’ll never work again.’

-Jesus Perez ‘Don’t say that. (numerous times)

-Pochettino ‘say that again, say that again, Say that for the camera.’

Doesn’t look good either way.

Refs comms are recorded though aren’t they, isn’t that how Clattenburg escaped the racism accusations/comments against Chelsea a few years back?

Nah then it's getting spicy.
 
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The position of referee has to be respected.

If we wanna look at character flaws. There are plenty of flaws with lots of Premier league players and managers.
That doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be answerable if they cross the line.
 

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That doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be answerable if they cross the line.

I haven’t said they should. But there is a time and place. Refs already get abuse from players Andy fans who feel aggrieved (a ot of the time for no reason). Imo the outburst irrespective of what’s been said doesn’t set a good example, hence Pochettino has been fined already and accepted it.

Make your complaint and have him dealt with.
 

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old news this Kepa situation..

players have been doing this for years.. Messi famously has refused to come off before

then found this

on the 5th of April 2017, Swansea City were leading 1–0 in Wales against Tottenham Hotspur. As the minutes ticked by, Swansea City stopper, Lukasz Fabianski, held firm stopping shot after shot from the Lilywhites. On the 80th minute, a collision with an opponent striker caused an injury to Fabianski. Play was stopped and he was subject to the discernment of the medical staff, who advised the Swansea manager, Paul Clement, to replace him. Paul Clement acted on the advice and signalled for the substitute goalkeeper to get ready.

However, as his number was being shown, Fabianski threw a big fuss and vehemently refused to get substituted. This back and forth disagreement between the manager and player caused the referee to get involved and clarify the situation. He also took note of how much time had been wasted so as to add in on top of the additional extra time. Since Paul Clement did not want to upset the mentality his stopper, he let him carry on.

Fabianski pulled off an amazing save from Dele Alli to deny Tottenham the equalizer just minutes after the fracas. However on the 89th minute, Dele Alli pounced on a deflection to equalize for Tottenham. Extra time added on amounted to 7 minutes (which would have been significantly lesser if Fabianski had simply agreed to be substituted)

Tottenham scored two goals in the final 7 minutes to seal a comeback 3–1 win and leave Swansea City and particular, Fabianski and Paul Clement wondering, what might have been.

Les Sealey refused to leave the pitch when Alex Ferguson tried to sub him with a badly cut knee back in the days before football really started in 1991 I think.
 
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Mike Dean is an appalling ref - he masks his ineptitude by doing those funny antics of his plus his arrogance is astounding- he is the worst of the lot

But Pochettino stepped over the line initially because of the corner then borrowed Wengers glasses to not see the way Rose stole those yards for the Spurs goal
 
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Anybody who thinks Dean is the worst PL ref needs to give their head a wobble, there's at least 5 worse refs than him.

That said i don't think hes much better.
 

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Mike Dean is an appalling ref - he masks his ineptitude by doing those funny antics of his plus his arrogance is astounding- he is the worst of the lot

But Pochettino stepped over the line initially because of the corner then borrowed Wengers glasses to not see the way Rose stole those yards for the Spurs goal
Why do you keep trying to suggest that incorrectly awarding a corner is on the same level as allowing someone to borrow a couple of yards on a throw? :ROFLMAO: One of those is a massive error, the other one is a bit of leniency that we see in every single game.


Looks like Rodgers has left Celtic to take over at Leicester.
This is amazing! About time he stopped languishing in that league. I've always found him good entertainment value, will be great to see him back in the Prem. I think he's a good fit for the Leicester side as well.
 

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On the Sala crash...

"The Air Accidents Investigation Branch (AAIB) has released its interim report into the air accident off the coast of Guernsey on January 21. The official probe has confirmed the part-time pilot David Ibbotson was not qualified to fly paying passengers with his private licence and revealed the owners of US-registered plane had failed to apply for permission to run commercial flights. Today's extraordinary report also reveals that in the last 15 minutes of the doomed flight Mr Ibbotson, a boiler engineer by trade, descended sharply four times because he was struggling with visibility and seconds before the fatal crash he plunged at a rate of 7,000ft per minute - equivalent to around 90mph. Investigators have said the plane hit the sea and sank to the bottom within 30 metres of losing radar contact 21 miles off the Channel Islands after Mr Ibbotson, from Humberside, desperately tried and failed to 'climb rapidly'. A robot sent to the seabed found the Piper Malibu was 'destroyed' by the impact of the crash and split into three parts with the engine thrown from the cockpit, the wings smashed and the tail and fin missing completely. The AAIB says it needs to do more work to find the cause of the crash but have already found that the plane failed to fly on a straight path between France and Wales, began to meander and then the pilot suddenly tried to pull up before nose-diving into the sea - the plane's instruments are prone to freezing and could have given Mr Ibbotson a false altitude reading."


wow.
 
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