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Completely disagree. The ball was drifting towards the touchline, not toward the box, and he was miles from goal. Mane wasn't in on goal if he'd got past Maguire.

The penalty should be the decision being discussed, that's the clear and obvious mistake the ref made and would have almost certainly resulted in a goal. That cost Liverpool the game, not the Maguire decision.

Leicester's defence were excellent last night. Pereira was the MOTM for me, he was excellent all night both in defence and attack.
Just watched again and am afraid your wrong, the ball would have gone in the box as the keeper stoped it short.

It’s a red for me because the other tackles mentioned all the time (Salha Kompany VVD ) at least they were going for the ball but missed timed it.
McGuire was nowhere near the ball and just took Mane out.
 

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Only the most one-eyed Liverpool fan could say that was a clear goalscoring opportunity. The key word is clear - Mane would have had a bit to do there once he got to the ball, considering he's running out wide at an angle, and the defence would have run straight towards goal to get goal side.

I was also thinking how good that Ricardo Pereira was last night. I'd take him at Spurs over Aurier any day! And over Trips at the moment.
Do you think Kane would have scored there if he got away from CBS who were flat footed.
The through ball was pretty straight and would have ended up in the corner of the penalty area .)just watched replay)
I think he would be one on one with the keeper, so would Mane.

50 yd race
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Evans
My tenner is on Mane even from a standing start but he also had a run to them.
 

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Just watched again and am afraid your wrong, the ball would have gone in the box as the keeper stoped it short.

It’s a red for me because the other tackles mentioned all the time (Salha Kompany VVD ) at least they were going for the ball but missed timed it.
McGuire was nowhere near the ball and just took Mane out.
You have a bizarre outlook on football if you think that was more of a red than those potential ankle-breakers. :unsure:
 

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Just watched again and am afraid your wrong, the ball would have gone in the box as the keeper stoped it short.

It’s a red for me because the other tackles mentioned all the time (Salha Kompany VVD ) at least they were going for the ball but missed timed it.
McGuire was nowhere near the ball and just took Mane out.

It's still Salah, not Salha. I know you've had it pointed out before but it's not sticking!

Also, it's Maguire, not McGuire.
 

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Do you think Kane would have scored there if he got away from CBS who were flat footed.
The through ball was pretty straight and would have ended up in the corner of the penalty area .)just watched replay)
I think he would be one on one with the keeper, so would Mane.

50 yd race
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McGuire
Evans
My tenner is on Mane even from a standing start but he also had a run to them.
The ball is angled away from goal, plus Mane is running from nearer the middle so would have had to angle his run wide (rather than running straight at goal). Evans and Maguire would have run straight at goal to get goalside however. With the ball holding up in the snow I believe you cannot say Mane would have definitely been clean through, therefore it's not a CLEAR goalscoring opportunity.
 

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You've stated the ref was inept, the ref had a shocker, your words. There was no need to involve the ref unless you are implying he had an impact on the result. The greater impact on the game were the players out on the pitch, not the ref. Moaning about the ref is ducking why you didn't win, that incidentally has as much to do with Leicester as Liverpool. Stop mentioning the ref each post match review and then people wont go for the old "whinging Liverpool fans blame referee". You are currently proving everyone to be correct.
We didn’t take our chances because Shmichael made some great saves.
 

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So you have never blamed the ref for some Everton results/decisions?
Not after every game, no. Where we are in the league this season is not down to referees, it is down to us. That is the reality. It is the reality every year.

In some games there will be an absolute whopper of a decision that really does impact the score but 95% of the time other factors make the difference and blaming the ref is a red herring to cover up faults elsewhere.

Clearly I still bear a grudge against Collina but that is entirely understandable :ROFLMAO:

Yes but when yo go the game, believe me your sense of injustice from a bad ref decision is magnified a lot more, than just sat in front of the telly, and I include me in this for when I watch the away games on the telly these days.


30 minutes later , your onto "whats for tea, missus", whereby when your at the match the whole journey home (whether 30 minutes or 5 hours gives you time to stew on it, and it affects your weekend a lot more. Especially when trophies, relegation, champions league places are up for grabs. Yes, Liverpool fans are a bit more desperate at the moment - wouldnt you be if you were in a genuine title race after 30 years of being used to it very season.

Not a dig on non-matchgoing fans, but believe me, you have it a lot easier.
 

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The ball is angled away from goal, plus Mane is running from nearer the middle so would have had to angle his run wide (rather than running straight at goal). Evans and Maguire would have run straight at goal to get goalside however. With the ball holding up in the snow I believe you cannot say Mane would have definitely been clean through, therefore it's not a CLEAR goalscoring opportunity.
It’s obvious your not having it but would say watch it again.
The ball faded about two yards and would have finished in the penalty area.
The CBS are flat footed and had no chance of catching him.
 

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I’m a bit late to the party on this one, but last I checked 350 mill is more than 120 mill that he paid for it.
The loans the club have are now owed to Barclays. So assuming he’s recovered that cost and the new signings look like they are being covered from a loan that barclays provided this month. He’s more than made his money out of us, and that’s before we even take into account the graffiti on the advertising hoardings.

Yes that graffiti on the East Stad roof is horrendous
 
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Yes but when yo go the game, believe me your sense of injustice from a bad ref decision is magnified a lot more, than just sat in front of the telly, and I include me in this for when I watch the away games on the telly these days.


30 minutes later , your onto "whats for tea, missus", whereby when your at the match the whole journey home (whether 30 minutes or 5 hours gives you time to stew on it, and it affects your weekend a lot more. Especially when trophies, relegation, champions league places are up for grabs. Yes, Liverpool fans are a bit more desperate at the moment - wouldnt you be if you were in a genuine title race after 30 years of being used to it very season.

Not a dig on non-matchgoing fans, but believe me, you have it a lot easier.
It’s not the match going fans whinging though is it, both you and Stu have had your posts acknowledged for being fair and honest, fair and honest is when you acknowledge the officials make mistakes for both sides and they get one look and one chance to make that decision.
As for the going the match and armchair supporter points you don’t need them, you are either passionate about your club or your not.
 

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On a separate issue, (well two) what is going on with Sarri and can he last the season and what position does your team need to fill before the deadline and will it happen.

Good luck with that one.

Fish has bigger fish to fry, Blue in Munich took the sensible option last year and bailed on this thread, Another double only sings when he's winning:ROFLMAO: and Pieman is still in shock.:)

I'm sure there is another poster who is Chelsea, but whats that got to do with Liverpool? He couldnt pick apart a Chelsea formation/team selection/player assessment if he tried.
 

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It’s not the match going fans whinging though is it, both you and Stu have had your posts acknowledged for being fair and honest, fair and honest is when you acknowledge the officials make mistakes for both sides and they get one look and one chance to make that decision.
As for the going the match and armchair supporter points you don’t need them, you are either passionate about your club or your not.

Sky subscribers can be the most passionate ones going, but they arent also paying £700.00 plus all associated costs, not playing golf on that particular day (probably) and many many more reasons.

Its the bigger financial as well as emotional spadework that the match goers put in that generally means it hurts more.
 
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