And, we’re off.......2018/2019

[Deleted member 15344]

Correct, so how could the medical staff check him out?

Even looking at the good old NHS website it even says “may not be obvious for a few days” - so with only Karius prob knowing that he had been hit in the head and I expect he was quite distraught and not thinking prob then I’m not sure telling the medical staff would have been a priority for him

But I guess it’s easier to point fingers

 

[Deleted member 1740]

I posted a list of common symptoms from the NHS website and enough there that both the player and the medical staff could have recognised as being unusual and started investigations earlier. There should have been a degree of responsibility with the player too who will have known how severe the contact was and how he was feeling in the following days and he should have mentioned this to the Liverpool staff.

We dont know if Karius was checked out straight after the game, assuming he wasnt , how the hell do you expect the liverpool medical staff to spot something they weren't looking for??

Concussion can happen after the initial event, so to blame the medical staff is laughable.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Shame Karius didn’t mention it.
Things could have been do different.

how?

 

[Pin-seeker]

We dont know if Karius was checked out straight after the game, assuming he wasnt , how the hell do you expect the liverpool medical staff to spot something they weren't looking for??

Concussion can happen after the initial event, so to blame the medical staff is laughable.

He didn’t have concussion tho La.

Can just imagine a doc saying
“Mr Karius you MAY have slight concussion”

He’d be like,I’m definitely going with this story 😂

 

[HomerJSimpson]

We dont know if Karius was checked out straight after the game, assuming he wasnt , how the hell do you expect the liverpool medical staff to spot something they weren't looking for??

Concussion can happen after the initial event, so to blame the medical staff is laughable.

I said clearly there should have been a level of responsibility from the player though. As you say it can come on after the event and if he thought something wasn't quite right spoken to a club medic or his local GP

 

[Deleted member 16999]

how?

We’re all guessing Stu, it’s just as wrong to say the team medics knew nothing as to guess Karius did say something.

Commonsense says any professional outfit in any sport at the highest level would have procedures in place.

Let’s be honest, bench’s can spot a definite penalty from 75yds, yet we are expected to believe no one on the LPool bench saw Karius go down after the elbow, get up, rub his head and then try to tell both the official behind the goal and the referee he’d been elbowed and all this while the game is stopped.

Then according to the reports, he flies off to the US virtually straight away after returning to the UK and then the medical team contact him 4 days later and order him to go for a scan.

He was being observed by them when they came to that decision.

 

[pbrown7582]

Regardless of the final etc but concussion can be very serious so I hope for his sake it’s nothing too serious but still it’s certainly not something to laugh at - understand he is staying in tbe US for a month to monitor him . Guess in the US they take it a bit more seriously after all the issues they have had -

Why did it take 10 days to get a scan?

Coincidence it’s in USA maybe at an owners sponsored doc?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Why did it take 10 days to get a scan?

Coincidence it’s in USA maybe at an owners sponsored doc?

The scan happened on the 31st - I’m not sure where the ten days is coming from but it did happen at a concussion specialist in Boston who works with the Red Sox

But ultimately as long as he is ok that’s all that matters - the usual suspects will continue to use a players potential serious injury as a point scoring exercise

 

[Deleted member 16999]

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spo...-confirm-liverpools-loris-karius-14743645.amp

This report claims he had treatment on the pitch after the elbow

Anyone got a copy of the match to check if that’s fact?

 

[Deleted member 1740]

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spo...-confirm-liverpools-loris-karius-14743645.amp

This report claims he had treatment on the pitch after the elbow

Anyone got a copy of the match to check if that’s fact?

i watched it with my own eyes in the stadium. no physio came on and treated karius

 

[Pin-seeker]

The scan happened on the 31st - I’m not sure where the ten days is coming from but it did happen at a concussion specialist in Boston who works with the Red Sox

But ultimately as long as he is ok that’s all that matters - the usual suspects will continue to use a players potential serious injury as a point scoring exercise

Change the record phil

 

[Deleted member 16999]

i watched it with my own eyes in the stadium. no physio came on and treated karius

That’s why I asked Stu, I know the ball went out of play and the Ref went back to Karius, but I couldn’t remember the physio going on.

 

[Kellfire]

Do people really think Liverpool, the player and reputable doctors would lie about this to protect Karius? Get a grip. More ridiculous claims on this thread.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

I seem to remember de Gea being rather poor for the first season or 2 at Utd and look at him now.
Karius will be better next season after this seasons exploits.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Do people really think Liverpool, the player and reputable doctors would lie about this to protect Karius? Get a grip. More ridiculous claims on this thread.

No one has said anyone has lied, simply asking questions of those who have apparently stated facts.
The statement from the hospital does not state he has to remain in the US for a month under observation, it also states he is expected to make a full recovery, yet terms like serious injury are bounded about with nothing more than guesswork.
Should we believe everything certain people post?

 

[Kellfire]

No one has said anyone has lied, simply asking questions of those who have apparently stated facts.
The statement from the hospital does not state he has to remain in the US for a month under observation, it also states he is expected to make a full recovery, yet terms like serious injury are bounded about with nothing more than guesswork.
Should we believe everything certain people post?

Every concussion is treated like a serious injury until it's proven differently. And yes, some people have said above that he was not concussed.

 

[Pin-seeker]

They were discussing the Karius “concussion” incident on the wireless this morning.
Making the same points as on here.
Just a good healthy debate with people expressing different opinions.

 

[cookelad]

Gossip column on the BBC Sport website saying that Fellaini is likely to sign for Arsenal, a bit like Maureen becoming the manager - you want to cheer your team on, but a little bit of you dies every time you do!

Edit : Just re read he's only having talks with 2 other offers on the table so there's still hope!

 

[pokerjoke]

Do people really think Liverpool, the player and reputable doctors would lie about this to protect Karius? Get a grip. More ridiculous claims on this thread.

Maybe not in this case.
However Liverpool football club lied about Coutinho bad back as they knew he was off to Barcelona.
And god knows what happened to Salah in the final it wasn't a dislocated shoulder as reported.

 

[Kellfire]

it wasn't a dislocated shoulder as reported.

This is a genuine question because I didn't see the official statement, but did Liverpool ever say Salah dislocated his shoulder? I saw a lot of media saying things like "suspected dislocation" but I never saw it confirmed.

Also, how would you know that he didn't? It's not uncommon for a small dislocation to immediately relocate. Yea, there is a large chance of cartilage damage if so, but a small dislocation could also cause as little as a sprain in the rotator cuff which could be what he's being treated for.