And, we’re off.......2018/2019

[Deleted member 15344]

I think you need to judge him over a longer period is all I'm saying.

This isn't an anti Liverpool view either.
De Gea has made a couple of mistakes in the last few weeks, doesn't blot his body of work over the last 5 years. He's not suddenly a worse keeper!

You're entitled to your opinion for sure, just seems everyone is so short termist when it comes to football.

Its not just this season though - last year he was the best keeper in the Serie A as well as playing very well in the CL and for Brazil

It’s all very tight between De Gea , Oblak and Alisson and I would expect fans of each team would not swap their keeper for another one

At the moment I can see De Gea starting to stagnate a little

I’m just delighted at the moment we have a world class GK

 

[Orikoru]

De Gea looks worse because the United defence is worse than ever. You can't expect him to make any saves when the defence is letting them quite literally waltz through for a one-on-one every time. He did make an error against Arsenal on the Mustafi goal. I wouldn't be surprised if he's just a bit fed up to be honest. Every game he's got different centre backs in front of him, and not one of them is any good.

 

[Tashyboy]

Brilliantly pick 2 Man Utd players,could have picked hundreds of others.
And you have proof of Beckham do you?i suspect you have or you wouldn’t have said it.

PJ don't just pick one post coz it suits your “discussion”. Go back a bit further and see who mentioned goldenballs and shrek first. Er heres a clue. “ it wasnt me”. I could hardly mention hundreds of other players inc Rio ferdinand 😉when they were not mentioned.

 

[Junior]

De Gea made some awesome saves in the Arsenal game but will only be remembered for the mistake for Mustaif's header.

Stick VVD in front of him instead of calamity Jones and Smalling and he's still the best. Just my opinion of course.

 

[fundy]

The weird thing is, keepers up to 5 years ago were probably the same price as most full backs and defensive midfielders, now they are becoming similar prices to strikers.

TBF It wasnt the best save you've ever seen, but definitely one of the most important.

The ref was shocking. Literally, if we touched a Napoli player he gave a foul every time. He'll probably get 10/10 by a UEFA assessor, but he was the main star of the show, and football will become non-contact in European competitions if that carries on.

That what happens when you have analytics and stats such as xG on a player by player basis, sides realising the true impact a decent keeper can have over a season

 

[pokerjoke]

PJ don't just pick one post coz it suits your “discussion”. Go back a bit further and see who mentioned goldenballs and shrek first. Er heres a clue. “ it wasnt me”. I could hardly mention hundreds of other players inc Rio ferdinand 😉when they were not mentioned.

I don’t want a discussion.
Lord Tyrion mentions both of them,Pinseeker mentions one and Homer mentions one,all of them on football issues.
You got personal and got into alleged affairs.

 

[clubchamp98]

I've never understood why it's taken Liverpool so long to sign a top quality keeper. The difference they can make is huge and often seems overlooked, you only have to look at how bad the united defence has looked this season with De Gea's form slipping a little.

There’s not many of them about though.
Like strikers a good one wins you the match.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Au pair whilst he was at Real Madrid

Is this Rebecca Loos ? Thought she was his PA ?

I know other women “alleged” to have had affairs with him but they have sued a number of the claimants but with Loos - nothing which would point to some truth behind it

If Sterling did the same and also visited prostitutes ala Rooney then I have no doubt the Mail and Scum would go off the charts with him

It’s a shame that the gutter press like the Mail and Scum have such a big influence over people - you would have thought people would be able to make their own mind up instead of being suckered in by red top rags.

The two headlines for Foden and his black teammate for buying their mum a house just shows the racist undertones with certain rags and Sterling is the one who has been rippped apart most - I have no doubt that if he was white then rags wouldn’t be getting mental at him for shopping in Primark etc

I can see Sterling end up being forced to move to Spain etc because of the way the press treats him and it would be a big shame

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I've never understood why it's taken Liverpool so long to sign a top quality keeper. The difference they can make is huge and often seems overlooked, you only have to look at how bad the united defence has looked this season with De Gea's form slipping a little.

Combination of things really

When Klopp arrived he wasn’t flush money to spend and had a lot of areas to “fix” so early stages he was buying young potential - hence why he went and got Karuis who was highly rated , the problem was there was a lot of swapping with Ming with neither settled - then last year Karius started to actually look like a GK who whilst not Top Class would be able to develop and from Jan until CL final played solid not spectacular- as soon as the CL Final happened and we had the money Klopp wanted a top keeper and finally got one in Alisson. It’s a shame that Klopp has had to do such a big rebuild but it’s looking like we are getting close now

 

[clubchamp98]

Not at all -he is constantly saving points over the first half of the season so far - De Gea form has dropped off for a while so for me he is right now up there

Alison has made mistakes ,trying a Cryuff turn in the area was one !
What I like though is he has learnt you can’t do that in the prem and his game has improved .
He is a quality keeper , and just what we needed.

 

[Tashyboy]

I don’t want a discussion.
Lord Tyrion mentions both of them,Pinseeker mentions one and Homer mentions one,all of them on football issues.
You got personal and got into alleged affairs.

Alleged? type in Rebecca loos on Google. I never got personal stating facts. if they had been Liverpool or City players doubt you would of commented.

 

[Papas1982]

Is this Rebecca Loos ? Thought she was his PA ?

I know other women “alleged” to have had affairs with him but they have sued a number of the claimants but with Loos - nothing which would point to some truth behind it

If Sterling did the same and also visited prostitutes ala Rooney then I have no doubt the Mail and Scum would go off the charts with him

It’s a shame that the gutter press like the Mail and Scum have such a big influence over people - you would have thought people would be able to make their own mind up instead of being suckered in by red top rags.

The two headlines for Foden and his black teammate for buying their mum a house just shows the racist undertones with certain rags and Sterling is the one who has been rippped apart most - I have no doubt that if he was white then rags wouldn’t be getting mental at him for shopping in Primark etc

I can see Sterling end up being forced to move to Spain etc because of the way the press treats him and it would be a big shame

I agree the press probably have an agenda. I think from previous posts re Sterling. The majority of fans who picked on him during the World Cup did so as his England career doesn’t resemble his career path at all.

Re him going to Spain to avoid racism? Not sure that works......

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Alleged? type in Rebecca loos on Google. I never got personal stating facts. if they had been Liverpool or City players doubt you would of commented.

I suggest that you follow your own advice.

If you Google this woman's name you will see that she claims to have had a sexual relationship with David Beckham but these claims have not been substantiated.

Therefore the word alleged is correct

 

[Rlburnside]

Combination of things really

When Klopp arrived he wasn’t flush money to spend and had a lot of areas to “fix” so early stages he was buying young potential - hence why he went and got Karuis who was highly rated , the problem was there was a lot of swapping with Ming with neither settled - then last year Karius started to actually look like a GK who whilst not Top Class would be able to develop and from Jan until CL final played solid not spectacular- as soon as the CL Final happened and we had the money Klopp wanted a top keeper and finally got one in Alisson. It’s a shame that Klopp has had to do such a big rebuild but it’s looking like we are getting close now

Come on Phil give a proper assessment of the keeper problems Liverpool had at the time and not such a biased view, it was blatantly obvious to most that for 2 seasons Liverpool didn't have goalkeepers that were good enough yet Klopp kept faith with them and kept saying they were good enough.

You've got a good keeper now and if Klopp addressed the problem sooner you might just have won the Champions League.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I agree the press probably have an agenda. I think from previous posts re Sterling. The majority of fans who picked on him during the World Cup did so as his England career doesn’t resemble his career path at all.

Re him going to Spain to avoid racism? Not sure that works......

Umm I didn’t say that ?

And I also don’t think anyone has even suggested fans have posted anything but football relevance - the topic is about the press not what fans have said

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Come on Phil give a proper assessment of the keeper problems Liverpool had at the time and not such a biased view, it was blatantly obvious to most that for 2 seasons Liverpool didn't have goalkeepers that were good enough yet Klopp kept faith with them and kept saying they were good enough.

You've got a good keeper now and if Klopp addressed the problem sooner you might just have won the Champions League.

Sorry but as I said - money and other areas that needed strengthening were what appeared to be Klopps priority at the time - he bought one young GK in and he gave him a good run of games and actually looked ok until the CL and Klopp is a manager who does show faith and back them

But hindsight is great - Klopp wanted a CB , a LB , CM , wide forwards - hence why he spent money on - Mane , Salah , VVD , Robertson , Gini before he then spent big on a GK. We could have not bought mane or Salah and got a GK but then I expect Klopp didn’t fancy any of them on the market at the time , who knows - right now I’m just happy we are strengthening the squad as each year goes by , we didn’t have the spending power to do it all at once.

 

[pokerjoke]

Alleged? type in Rebecca loos on Google. I never got personal stating facts. if they had been Liverpool or City players doubt you would of commented.

If they weren’t Utd players you wouldn’t have bothered posting.

 

[huds1475]

If they weren’t Utd players you wouldn’t have bothered posting.

The bitterness is hard to shake off after all these years for some.

 

[Papas1982]

Umm I didn’t say that ?

And I also don’t think anyone has even suggested fans have posted anything but football relevance - the topic is about the press not what fans have said

Why would sterling be forced to leave? Because of the racism in press I presume was your reasoning. So I was simply saying that it wouldn’t get any better if he went to Spain.

Foreigners of any colour are used as scapegoats in Spain. Bale has been motm in two cl finals and still they don’t like him lol

In regards to The World Cup. It was mentioned on here earlier that he was singled out when others were ooor and that his skin colour was a reason for it. I don’t recall if it was just the papers that was aimed at. But even so, imo his performances for England are why he gets abuse. Not his skin colour.

 

[Papas1982]

The bitterness is hard to shake off after all these years for some.

Tbf to Tashy. The guys that he mentioned were the Stars of those England squads. Alongside Kane at club level at least it could be argued Sterling is the star now, so it’s a viable comparison.

Add to that you’re a rival team and it’s to be expected. We all do it. Plenty of UTD fans quick to point score against Liverpool fans on here.