And, we’re off.......2018/2019

[HomerJSimpson]

Sterling's England performances was raised on ITV sport tonight, highlighting the stick Sterling has taken both in the media and from England fans. It tried to make a link with the abuse he received at Chelsea and, if any its racist elements.
This stuck in my throat as the stick/criticism he got in an England shirt was solely based on his performances and NOT the colour of his skin.

Didn't see the feature but in my opinion the stick he's got for his England performances have some merit and going 27 games without a goal and 4 in 47 performances simply isn't good enough at international level irrespective of the colour of his skin. Can't think of too many that have under-performed to that level so regularly for England and I think others given an equal run would perform better

 

[Pin-seeker]

Sterling was hammered by Liverpool fans for being greedy when he jumped ship.
Just like Ashley Cole was when leaving Arsenal.

The press jump all over this.

Not sure I buy all this press racism thing.

 

[fundy]

Sterling was hammered by Liverpool fans for being greedy when he jumped ship.
Just like Ashley Cole was when leaving Arsenal.

The press jump all over this.

Not sure I buy all this press racism thing.

I really struggle to understand why someone who chose the 5k an extra per week and stated that he only left for the money as greedy lol

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Lots of England players have been hammered by the press. The most obvious one in recent times has been Rooney, before him it was Beckham. I don't think the sterling criticism had a racial backdrop, I was giving him pelters during the world cup but for his football, nothing else. However if sterling's comments make journalists think a little more about some of their angles then that is no bad thing.

 

[Pin-seeker]

I really struggle to understand why someone who chose the 5k an extra per week and stated that he only left for the money as greedy lol

Worked out pretty well for both of them tho didnt it 😆

 

[Pin-seeker]

Lots of England players have been hammered by the press. The most obvious one in recent times has been Rooney, before him it was Beckham. I don't think the sterling criticism had a racial backdrop, I was giving him pelters during the world cup but for his football, nothing else. However if sterling's comments make journalists think a little more about some of their angles then that is no bad thing.

Spot on.
Rooney as had some right hammer over the years.
Maybe because he didn’t turn up at international tournaments after having a solid season for club.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Lots of England players have been hammered by the press. The most obvious one in recent times has been Rooney, before him it was Beckham. I don't think the sterling criticism had a racial backdrop, I was giving him pelters during the world cup but for his football, nothing else. However if sterling's comments make journalists think a little more about some of their angles then that is no bad thing.

This. Any flak Sterling has got has been based purely on his performances. As I stated 27 games without a goal isn't good enough. Rooney was given stick for not producing it on the big stage and the press didn't single him out though. England as a team failed and so the stick was justified based on their lack of results

 

[Pin-seeker]

The stick that Sterling got for spoiling his mother,now that was ridiculous.

 

[Tashyboy]

This. Any flak Sterling has got has been based purely on his performances. As I stated 27 games without a goal isn't good enough. Rooney was given stick for not producing it on the big stage and the press didn't single him out though. England as a team failed and so the stick was justified based on their lack of results

Not at all Homer you cannot defend his lack of goals for Engalnd but the space he creates for others ie Kane goes in noticed. As LP says was he the only one. EG Dier was Dier. What stick did he get.
Let's get back to Sterling, off the top of your heads what's the worst thing he has done off a football pitch. Jas he slept with prostitutes whilst married, has he slept behind his partners back. Both Rooney and ( golden balls) Beckham did. As a black footballer is he the worst role model you could imagine. Not in the least. Sterling mentioned about the press ( and it's not just the press) having an attitude to stereotyping Blacks in a negative manner. And he is lambasted for it. Why. because it makes uncomfortable reading in 2018?

Well let me chuck this one in the mix.
There is a video clip being sent around today that I have been sent 4 times. It shows a mother filming her daughter
( about 4 yrs old) who has eaten two mr Kipling cakes. The girl goes onto explain how a burglar has broken into the house and eaten the cakes.The mother says " oh so the burglar has broken into this house, not stolen the telly or the jewellery, yet eaten two cakes". The girl says " yes, and he was a Black man". Now how has a four year old innocent girl picked up on that. Exactly the same reasons as Sterling has highlighted.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Not at all Homer you cannot defend his lack of goals for Engalnd but the space he creates for others ie Kane goes in noticed. As LP says was he the only one. EG Dier was Dier. What stick did he get.
Let's get back to Sterling, off the top of your heads what's the worst thing he has done off a football pitch. Jas he slept with prostitutes whilst married, has he slept behind his partners back. Both Rooney and ( golden balls) Beckham did. As a black footballer is he the worst role model you could imagine. Not in the least. Sterling mentioned about the press ( and it's not just the press) having an attitude to stereotyping Blacks in a negative manner. And he is lambasted for it. Why. because it makes uncomfortable reading in 2018?

Well let me chuck this one in the mix.
There is a video clip being sent around today that I have been sent 4 times. It shows a mother filming her daughter
( about 4 yrs old) who has eaten two mr Kipling cakes. The girl goes onto explain how a burglar has broken into the house and eaten the cakes.The mother says " oh so the burglar has broken into this house, not stolen the telly or the jewellery, yet eaten two cakes". The girl says " yes, and he was a Black man". Now how has a four year old innocent girl picked up on that. Exactly the same reasons as Sterling has highlighted.

Who did Beckham have affair with?

The kids mother decided to share it on social media.
Proud parent moment.
Kids got no chance.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Not at all Homer you cannot defend his lack of goals for Engalnd but the space he creates for others ie Kane goes in noticed. As LP says was he the only one. EG Dier was Dier. What stick did he get.
Let's get back to Sterling, off the top of your heads what's the worst thing he has done off a football pitch. Jas he slept with prostitutes whilst married, has he slept behind his partners back. Both Rooney and ( golden balls) Beckham did. As a black footballer is he the worst role model you could imagine. Not in the least. Sterling mentioned about the press ( and it's not just the press) having an attitude to stereotyping Blacks in a negative manner. And he is lambasted for it. Why. because it makes uncomfortable reading in 2018?

Well let me chuck this one in the mix.
There is a video clip being sent around today that I have been sent 4 times. It shows a mother filming her daughter
( about 4 yrs old) who has eaten two mr Kipling cakes. The girl goes onto explain how a burglar has broken into the house and eaten the cakes.The mother says " oh so the burglar has broken into this house, not stolen the telly or the jewellery, yet eaten two cakes". The girl says " yes, and he was a Black man". Now how has a four year old innocent girl picked up on that. Exactly the same reasons as Sterling has highlighted.

Sorry to disagree with you but several points here. I think the video clip with the girl is a separate issue and her stereotyping has nothing to do with football and Sterling in particular. As far as Sterling goes, I have been vocal on here about his England performances. I disagree that he creates for others and for me he loses possession far too easily, goes to ground and his goal return isn't good enough and he needs too many chances to convert one which is a luxury you don't have at that level and 27 games without a goal isn't good enough in my opinion. I think if others were given the run he's had they'd develop and offer more. I haven't seen any press criticism about his performances based on race at all and not once has it been "because he's coloured" and to that degree there has been no stereotyping in relaton to his England career

Yes the likes of Beckham and Rooney made mistakes in their personal lives and got dragged through the gutter press accordingly. I never said Sterling was a poor role model. In fact after his stance this week I think he's probably gained more respect across many different races in the UK.

 

[Tashyboy]

Who did Beckham have affair with?

The kids mother decided to share it on social media.
Proud parent moment.
Kids got no chance.

Au pair whilst he was at Real Madrid

 

[Pin-seeker]

Au pair whilst he was at Real Madrid

Did that really happen?

 

[fundy]

Spurs and Liverpool both through, both a touch fortunate at times. Stunning save from Alison at the death (Mane be most thankful!)

Napoli were very disappointing, almost as bad as the horrific commentary

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Mane missed some clear cut chances tonight and could have had a hat-trick but ultimately another stylish finish from Salah enough. Well done to Spurs again, some what luckily but they got what they needed with the other result going their way. I don't know I can see Spurs really going much further and Liverpool will need to be more clinical but they look good enough to progress

 

[Swingalot]

Well done Spurs and Liverpool. I'm a bit old fashioned and still like to see the English sides do well in Europe.

 

[pokerjoke]

Not at all Homer you cannot defend his lack of goals for Engalnd but the space he creates for others ie Kane goes in noticed. As LP says was he the only one. EG Dier was Dier. What stick did he get.
Let's get back to Sterling, off the top of your heads what's the worst thing he has done off a football pitch. Jas he slept with prostitutes whilst married, has he slept behind his partners back. Both Rooney and ( golden balls) Beckham did. As a black footballer is he the worst role model you could imagine. Not in the least. Sterling mentioned about the press ( and it's not just the press) having an attitude to stereotyping Blacks in a negative manner. And he is lambasted for it. Why. because it makes uncomfortable reading in 2018?

Well let me chuck this one in the mix.
There is a video clip being sent around today that I have been sent 4 times. It shows a mother filming her daughter
( about 4 yrs old) who has eaten two mr Kipling cakes. The girl goes onto explain how a burglar has broken into the house and eaten the cakes.The mother says " oh so the burglar has broken into this house, not stolen the telly or the jewellery, yet eaten two cakes". The girl says " yes, and he was a Black man". Now how has a four year old innocent girl picked up on that. Exactly the same reasons as Sterling has highlighted.

Brilliantly pick 2 Man Utd players,could have picked hundreds of others.
And you have proof of Beckham do you?i suspect you have or you wouldn’t have said it.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Blimey - we certainly don’t do things easily

Alisson showed tonight why he is possibly the best GK in the world at the moment , and VVD must be alongside Varane as the best CB in the world.

One thing though the refs in Europe just seem to get worse every week - really shocking tonight

 

[Papas1982]

Brilliantly pick 2 Man Utd players,could have picked hundreds of others.
And you have proof of Beckham do you?i suspect you have or you wouldn’t have said it.

Considering how important their image was for "brand Beckham", and the fact that they didn't go down any legal routes against her (Loos) for slander. I would suggest that it most likely happened.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Spurs and Liverpool both through, both a touch fortunate at times. Stunning save from Alison at the death (Mane be most thankful!)

Napoli were very disappointing, almost as bad as the horrific commentary

I thought we were the better side by far, not being clinical enough nearly cost us but a cracking 1 nil win and into the next round of the draw.

Alison is a massive improvement on Mignolet and Karius, we lose that game tonight if any of those two
were in goal.