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I thought we were the better side by far, not being clinical enough nearly cost us but a cracking 1 nil win and into the next round of the draw.

Alison is a massive improvement on Mignolet and Karius, we lose that game tonight if any of those two
were in goal.

you were for sure, they were awful mind. if Mane had any composure in front of goal tonight youd have cruised through but as it was they will feel they missed a golden chance to nick a draw they didnt deserve
 

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Bit of magic from salha but front three were very disappointing.
Easy balls were just cocked up all night , we ripped them apart at times but the final ball was awful.
Firmino just dosnt look right , he gave the ball away more than anyone .
Midfield played well but when they did get at us they were just as wasteful.

Alison does make the difference.
The ref ? What can you say some very strange decisions.
 

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The stick that Sterling got for spoiling his mother,now that was ridiculous.
Well you've touched upon it there. Here's a Twitter thread of all the ridiculous stories that 'newspapers' have levelled at him, precious few are anything to do with his performance for England.


Make sure you click all the way through, there are 31 items there. I particularly enjoy how he gets slated for spending too much money some of the time, and for not spending enough money at other times.

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A lovely surprise that Spurs got through last night! I knew Barca would rest most of their team which would give us a chance, but I didn't expect PSV to get a result. We should have beaten Barca 3-1 with all the chances we had, but the draw was obviously enough in the end. Thanks Hirving Lozano! Here's to our next round exit to Juve again, probably.
 

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Good post from the bloke who compiled those stories. Pathetic aren't they? I don't read any tabloids so they have passed me by but he clearly is on the end of something there, whether it is racism or just some sort of vendetta I don't know. The journos and papers should be embarrassed at the level of them though. Raheem drives a dirty car? Really, someone thought that was worthy of a national newspaper?
 

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Good post from the bloke who compiled those stories. Pathetic aren't they? I don't read any tabloids so they have passed me by but he clearly is on the end of something there, whether it is racism or just some sort of vendetta I don't know. The journos and papers should be embarrassed at the level of them though. Raheem drives a dirty car? Really, someone thought that was worthy of a national newspaper?
With the Sun I'm inclined to believe it's racism, with the Daily Mail it could just as easily be good old-fashioned class snobbery. Either way it stinks.
 
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With the Sun I'm inclined to believe it's racism, with the Daily Mail it could just as easily be good old-fashioned class snobbery. Either way it stinks.

Both organisations have got previous.
 

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Bit of magic from salha but front three were very disappointing.
Easy balls were just cocked up all night , we ripped them apart at times but the final ball was awful.
Firmino just dosnt look right , he gave the ball away more than anyone .
Midfield played well but when they did get at us they were just as wasteful.

Alison does make the difference.
The ref ? What can you say some very strange decisions.

I've never understood why it's taken Liverpool so long to sign a top quality keeper. The difference they can make is huge and often seems overlooked, you only have to look at how bad the united defence has looked this season with De Gea's form slipping a little.
 

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I've never understood why it's taken Liverpool so long to sign a top quality keeper. The difference they can make is huge and often seems overlooked, you only have to look at how bad the united defence has looked this season with De Gea's form slipping a little.
The same was true for Arsenal before they signed Cech. It cost them year after year. Most people seem to know this but certain managers have blind spots for it. Hugely important position, I totally agree with you.
 

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With the Sun I'm inclined to believe it's racism, with the Daily Mail it could just as easily be good old-fashioned class snobbery. Either way it stinks.

It's shocking they can still get away with writing what they want with no real repercussions. At most you might see a tiny note of apology but typically it's just ignored.
 

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It's shocking they can still get away with writing what they want with no real repercussions. At most you might see a tiny note of apology but typically it's just ignored.
I agree wholeheartedly. I saw one recently where they'd included a very small apology buried deep within the paper, apologising for a previous front page where they had literally made up a bunch of figures relating to immigration or something. The apology actually stated there were no basis for the numbers. But as you say, it's buried so deep no one will see. Staggering. I don't bother reading newspapers because they are little more than opinion pieces.
 
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Er, no.

Sounds a bit like a euphoria based hyperbole :)

He's got plenty of potential though.

Not at all -he is constantly saving points over the first half of the season so far - De Gea form has dropped off for a while so for me he is right now up there
 

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I think you need to judge him over a longer period is all I'm saying.

This isn't an anti Liverpool view either.
De Gea has made a couple of mistakes in the last few weeks, doesn't blot his body of work over the last 5 years. He's not suddenly a worse keeper!

You're entitled to your opinion for sure, just seems everyone is so short termist when it comes to football.
 

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I think you need to judge him over a longer period is all I'm saying.

This isn't an anti Liverpool view either.
De Gea has made a couple of mistakes in the last few weeks, doesn't blot his body of work over the last 5 years. He's not suddenly a worse keeper!

You're entitled to your opinion for sure, just seems everyone is so short termist when it comes to football.
Even outside of De Gea and the Premier League you have Ter Stegen and Oblak in Spain. Courtois is still up there for me. Even Sczszcszsesny is apparently performing very well at Juve.

In terms of Prem only though, Allison probably is 2nd best in the league now after De Gea, and a fraction ahead of Ederson.
 

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Even outside of De Gea and the Premier League you have Ter Stegen and Oblak in Spain. Courtois is still up there for me. Even Sczszcszsesny is apparently performing very well at Juve.

In terms of Prem only though, Allison probably is 2nd best in the league now after De Gea, and a fraction ahead of Ederson.

How do you judge one being a fraction above the other? I've always found it odd, the need to decide who's the absolute best on such subjective things in a team game.
 

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How do you judge one being a fraction above the other? I've always found it odd, the need to decide who's the absolute best on such subjective things in a team game.
Just giving my opinion, following on from LP's claim that he's 'possibly the best in the world'. Both Allison and Ederson are good with their feet, but I think Allison is a fraction better at actual old-school shot-stopping.
 

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If De Gea and Allison were both put up for sale with the same time left on their contracts who would command the bigger fee? I think we all know that answer.
 

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I've never understood why it's taken Liverpool so long to sign a top quality keeper. The difference they can make is huge and often seems overlooked, you only have to look at how bad the united defence has looked this season with De Gea's form slipping a little.

The weird thing is, keepers up to 5 years ago were probably the same price as most full backs and defensive midfielders, now they are becoming similar prices to strikers.

TBF It wasnt the best save you've ever seen, but definitely one of the most important.

The ref was shocking. Literally, if we touched a Napoli player he gave a foul every time. He'll probably get 10/10 by a UEFA assessor, but he was the main star of the show, and football will become non-contact in European competitions if that carries on.
 

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How do you judge one being a fraction above the other? I've always found it odd, the need to decide who's the absolute best on such subjective things in a team game.

I dont think Allison is the current best in the world, and not too bothered who is. Playing behind a better defence has a massive effect on it, overall team philosophy and lots of other factors.

De Gea is still the better shot stopper, that said, I was going to post last week whether Man U should give their 2nd choice a go (I've always been very impressed with him, and wanted him for ourselves last season, before we got Allison). De Gea has recently let in a lot of goals - are Man U (and Spain's) defence letting more shots on target, or is he just not saving as many? Is Romero good enough to get a go, even for a few weeks?

This wouldnt have been a conversation up until 6 months ago......but maybe is now????

Like Firminho for me - he needs 2 weeks off, recharge and go again - does De Gea?
 

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I dont think Allison is the current best in the world, and not too bothered who is. Playing behind a better defence has a massive effect on it, overall team philosophy and lots of other factors.

De Gea is still the better shot stopper, that said, I was going to post last week whether Man U should give their 2nd choice a go (I've always been very impressed with him, and wanted him for ourselves last season, before we got Allison). De Gea has recently let in a lot of goals - are Man U (and Spain's) defence letting more shots on target, or is he just not saving as many? Is Romero good enough to get a go, even for a few weeks?

This wouldnt have been a conversation up until 6 months ago......but maybe is now????

Like Firminho for me - he needs 2 weeks off, recharge and go again - does De Gea?

I think we got so used to De Gea making multiple incredible saves a game that now he's dropped off a bit it appears that he's really struggling. He's made a few uncharacteristic mistakes recently but don't think he's playing particularly poorly overall. The united defence as a whole has been a shambles so that probably doesn't help things as well.
 
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