And, we’re off.......2018/2019

[Deleted member 15344]

Why would sterling be forced to leave? Because of the racism in press I presume was your reasoning. So I was simply saying that it wouldn’t get any better if he went to Spain.

Foreigners of any colour are used as scapegoats in Spain. Bale has been motm in two cl finals and still they don’t like him lol

In regards to The World Cup. It was mentioned on here earlier that he was singled out when others were ooor and that his skin colour was a reason for it. I don’t recall if it was just the papers that was aimed at. But even so, imo his performances for England are why he gets abuse. Not his skin colour.

The press in Spain are nowhere near as bad as what we see so hence why I said going to Spain to escape being singled out - he wouldn’t be singled out as much over there as he does by the gutter press - didn’t say he would leave to escape racism - it even says in the post “Leave to get away from our press”

The Spanish press do have headline hunters but it’s nowhere near as bad


And the Euros ( not World Cup ) was again as stated in the post all about the headlines in the press and how they treated the performances of Kane and Sterling differently.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Is this Rebecca Loos ? Thought she was his PA ?

I know other women “alleged” to have had affairs with him but they have sued a number of the claimants but with Loos - nothing which would point to some truth behind it

If Sterling did the same and also visited prostitutes ala Rooney then I have no doubt the Mail and Scum would go off the charts with him

It’s a shame that the gutter press like the Mail and Scum have such a big influence over people - you would have thought people would be able to make their own mind up instead of being suckered in by red top rags.

The two headlines for Foden and his black teammate for buying their mum a house just shows the racist undertones with certain rags and Sterling is the one who has been rippped apart most - I have no doubt that if he was white then rags wouldn’t be getting mental at him for shopping in Primark etc

I can see Sterling end up being forced to move to Spain etc because of the way the press treats him and it would be a big shame

Didn’t the press go off the charts with Rooney?

Foden isn’t really a household name yet,maybe that’s why?

Still crazy tho.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Becker is excellent and has improved us massively and hopefully his form continues, I wouldn’t like him to end up like our one season wonder Mo 😉

 

[Tashyboy]

I suggest that you follow your own advice.

If you Google this woman's name you will see that she claims to have had a sexual relationship with David Beckham but these claims have not been substantiated.

Therefore the word alleged is correct

Might well be alleged, but seeing as golden balls never took her to court for lying/ defamation of character and she actually repeated said claims in the national press as to " why she has no regrets in coming out".And once more golden balls never went to court for me speaks volumes. Allegedly. How do you actually substantiate said claims, video evidence?

 

[Tashyboy]

If they weren’t Utd players you wouldn’t have bothered posting.

Am not sure which part of " I never quoted those two names originally" you don't get. I would of bothered posting because the response was in response to something I wrote. For the record, LT first mentioned Rooney and Beckham. Homer copied and agreed with the post. I disagreed and stated why?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Well that looks like it should be a clear red card for Valencia

 

[Papas1982]

The press in Spain are nowhere near as bad as what we see so hence why I said going to Spain to escape being singled out - he wouldn’t be singled out as much over there as he does by the gutter press - didn’t say he would leave to escape racism - it even says in the post “Leave to get away from our press”

The Spanish press do have headline hunters but it’s nowhere near as bad


And the Euros ( not World Cup ) was again as stated in the post all about the headlines in the press and how they treated the performances of Kane and Sterling differently.

Kane has performed in 90% of his appearances for England. Sterling hasn’t. Lots of comments made about his character may well be tainted by a racist slant. But his performances are criticised based on exactly that. His performances.

As to the press differences, atm he is claiming (rightly so in some instances) that the media has an agenda against him. If he leaves England because of that. Then Spain won’t be a safe haven for him. In the grand scheme of things. The bad element against him is racist attitudes. Swapping racist press for racist fans isn’t gonna be an improvement, if anything it’ll be worse as the press he can simply choose to stop reading. He can’t escape fans on the terraces.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I had to look back and see what I wrote to cause such bother. It was a pretty sympathetic post about Rooney and Beckham being picked out and hammered in the press. The current subject of the press's ire is Sterling. Many of the articles about those three have little to do with football, as has been shown in Okiroku's post. It wasn't anti Utd players, not sure how it could be taken that way.

I'm trying to figure out what I've done . Apologies Tashy for getting you into trouble although I'm not sure how it happened.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Kane has performed in 90% of his appearances for England. Sterling hasn’t. Lots of comments made about his character may well be tainted by a racist slant. But his performances are criticised based on exactly that. His performances.

I’m sure what you are trying to argue

The point was back in 2016 in the Euros both Sterling and Kane had very poor tournaments - the press went mental at Sterling yet said Kane was poor because he was asked to take corners - they treated the two players differently - it was a point brought up by Neville , this is the press we are talking about not what fans are saying

As to the press differences, atm he is claiming (rightly so in some instances) that the media has an agenda against him. If he leaves England because of that. Then Spain won’t be a safe haven for him. In the grand scheme of things. The bad element against him is racist attitudes. Swapping racist press for racist fans isn’t gonna be an improvement, if anything it’ll be worse as the press he can simply choose to stop reading. He can’t escape fans on the terraces.

Right now Sterling gets press even when he goes for breakfast , buys his mum a house , proposes to his girlfriend or goes shopping in Primark- in Spain he won’t get that - he will get big headlines but it will all be football based - they mainly leave the private life alone ( something Beckham said was so much better in Spain )

I don’t know if you are just being contrary for the sake of it and have actually read what is being said and what is happening

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Might well be alleged, but seeing as golden balls never took her to court for lying/ defamation of character and she actually repeated said claims in the national press as to " why she has no regrets in coming out".And once more golden balls never went to court for me speaks volumes. Allegedly. How do you actually substantiate said claims, video evidence?

Sorry but that's the sort of thinking on which the gutter press thrives.

There may be a number of reasons why her claim was not challenged in the courts but you clearly adhere to the "No smoke without fire" line.

 

[Papas1982]

I’m sure what you are trying to argue

The point was back in 2016 in the Euros both Sterling and Kane had very poor tournaments - the press went mental at Sterling yet said Kane was poor because he was asked to take corners - they treated the two players differently - it was a point brought up by Neville , this is the press we are talking about not what fans are saying

Like I said, Kane has credit in the bank so to speak. His international record then and now is better than sterling’s. So he will rightly imo get less stick. That’s got nothing imo to do with racism.

Right now Sterling gets press even when he goes for breakfast , buys his mum a house , proposes to his girlfriend or goes shopping in Primark- in Spain he won’t get that - he will get big headlines but it will all be football based - they mainly leave the private life alone ( something Beckham said was so much better in Spain )

I don’t know if you are just being contrary for the sake of it and have actually read what is being said and what is happening

I have accepted Sterling gets picked apart by the press. In Spain, his day to say life may be better. But this latest discussion has only happened BECAUSE of racism on the terraces. We weren’t criticising the press beforehand and saying poor old Raheem. So, whilst it must be annoying to not eat your toast in piece, I’m sure it’s a lot worse having chants made at you on the pitch simply for being black. Something Beckham won’t have had to suffer so the comparison or use of him as in excample doesn’t work imo.

As to being contrary. As you’ve said many a time pm here, it’s a place to discuss. I disagreed with your opinion so said so giving my reasons. Which I’ve now basically just repeated.
Anyways, I’ve annoyed myself by trying to discuss with you on here again coz it always ends the same.

See you at Sunningdale.

 

[pokerjoke]

I had to look back and see what I wrote to cause such bother. It was a pretty sympathetic post about Rooney and Beckham being picked out and hammered in the press. The current subject of the press's ire is Sterling. Many of the articles about those three have little to do with football, as has been shown in Okiroku's post. It wasn't anti Utd players, not sure how it could be taken that way.

I'm trying to figure out what I've done . Apologies Tashy for getting you into trouble although I'm not sure how it happened.

In my eyes your post was fine as was Pinseekers and Homers because you were talking football,Tasha in my eyes took it to personal.
The trouble is in this day and age people can’t think for themselves and start believing everything that is said or wrote.
Unless people can come up with concrete evidence I suggest keeping their thoughts to themselves if it’s personal.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Well that looks like it should be a clear red card for Valencia

The whole team - why what have they done?

 

[Tashyboy]

I had to look back and see what I wrote to cause such bother. It was a pretty sympathetic post about Rooney and Beckham being picked out and hammered in the press. The current subject of the press's ire is Sterling. Many of the articles about those three have little to do with football, as has been shown in Okiroku's post. It wasn't anti Utd players, not sure how it could be taken that way.

I'm trying to figure out what I've done . Apologies Tashy for getting you into trouble although I'm not sure how it happened.

You have nowt to apologise for LT, you wrote something, Homer agreed and I gave a view where I did not agree 100 %. Yet since then I am anti Utd even though the two players mentioned. One played for Utd at the time of his misdemeanours and one Real Madrid. All is sweet in the Tashy household. 👍

 

[Tashyboy]

In my eyes your post was fine as was Pinseekers and Homers because you were talking football,Tasha in my eyes took it to personal.
The trouble is in this day and age people can’t think for themselves and start believing everything that is said or wrote.
Unless people can come up with concrete evidence I suggest keeping their thoughts to themselves if it’s personal.

An explaination on how it was personal would greatly help. Copy and paste away.

 

[Junior]

Well that looks like it should be a clear red card for Valencia

Not as clear as VVD ankle snapper on Tuesday night

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Not as clear as VVD ankle snapper on Tuesday night

Is that the one were he got the ball first in a sliding tackle then momentum carried him through - that’s one a European ref gives and a Prem ref doesn’t, im not sure what else VVD can do

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Right now Sterling gets press even when he goes for breakfast , buys his mum a house , proposes to his girlfriend or goes shopping in Primark- in Spain he won’t get that - he will get big headlines but it will all be football based - they mainly leave the private life alone ( something Beckham said was so much better in Spain )

I remember Lucas Leiva saying in an interview exactly the opposite, in that they couldn't go out on their own for fear of being mobbed but on Mersyside they could. Coutiniho also said the same.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Is that the one were he got the ball first in a sliding tackle then momentum carried him through - that’s one a European ref gives and a Prem ref doesn’t, im not sure what else VVD can do

If you are out of control then it doesn't matter if you take the ball first. That has changed in recent years from the old take ball and man era. I haven't seen the VVD tackle so I am not making any comment on that specifically but you need to tackle in control now and largely that means staying on your feet and not sliding in unless you are confident that the slide wont also take the man out.

 

[clubchamp98]

If you are out of control then it doesn't matter if you take the ball first. That has changed in recent years from the old take ball and man era. I haven't seen the VVD tackle so I am not making any comment on that specifically but you need to tackle in control now and largely that means staying on your feet and not sliding in unless you are confident that the slide wont also take the man out.

That makes it a non contact sport then.
Gomez was injured by a similar tackle against Burnley , the ref didn’t give a foul.
VVD got the ball his follow through wasn’t high it was just an accident.
This has been coming for years , by all the divers and cheats who over react to genuine challenges.

So why if two players go for a header in the box striker gets the ball and the defender gets the striker , how many penalty’s have you seen given for the follow through with his head.