Could you imagine it, the ryder cup team going on strike!
And the two wildcard picks are...
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John_Findlay
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And while we are on the subject of results.......how did your team get on at the weekend John?
....kick a man while he's down, why don't you Stuart!
Elegantly side-stepping any Celtic jibes........I think it's interesting to ask ourselves whether we think Faldo has picked a duffer in Poulter. Would we play him more often than Oliver Wilson or Soren Hansen for example? If the answer is yes then he can't be a bad member of the team. He maybe has the extra arrogance needed to play in front of the Kentucky crowds without it phasing him.
By the way...I'd have had no hesitation in playing Clarke in 5 matches.
Nico
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Poulthard!!! Genius.
Read Lawrence Donnegan in the Guardian today,he has it spot on. Faldo would only have had Clarke if he had played his way in.
Faldo got off lightly yesterday,though his face was a picture when someone asked what made him pick two guys without wins over a man who has won twice this year!
Read Lawrence Donnegan in the Guardian today,he has it spot on. Faldo would only have had Clarke if he had played his way in.
Faldo got off lightly yesterday,though his face was a picture when someone asked what made him pick two guys without wins over a man who has won twice this year!
End of the day the picks are made so lets move on,I am sure if I were in charge I may plum for 1 of my favs who aint a fav of others it is after all up to the Captain to pick HIS men.In 3 weeks time we can all come back on here and either rave how good or moan how bad the picks were but I firmly believe both will do well as will the seemingly weaklinks Wilson and Hansen.
As said previously the only suprise was that Clrke wasnt picked but is it really a massive suprise that Poultass was the man to take his place??I would rather have Poultass than Kaymer or Monty.
As said previously the only suprise was that Clrke wasnt picked but is it really a massive suprise that Poultass was the man to take his place??I would rather have Poultass than Kaymer or Monty.
viscount17
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there is a basic fault with the whole selection process, early season success can get you in as an automatic qualifier despite later (and more relevant) poorer form.
that said, they'll do me, though I think this year it will be a real slug-fest - mostly with the crowd.
Ollie is probably a really good choice for vice, question is does he need another and if so who? It won't be DC.
that said, they'll do me, though I think this year it will be a real slug-fest - mostly with the crowd.
Ollie is probably a really good choice for vice, question is does he need another and if so who? It won't be DC.
madandra
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I disagree.
Like I said 'even blind squirrels find nuts'
If he had improved he would now be the World No.1 (after his hyper ego took control of his mouth earlier this year) and that is still Tiger. Poulter isn't going to the Ryder cup to be part of a team, he knows that its the only way he can give his sponsors a high profile victory they were promised as he ain't ever going to win off of his own individual ability.
StuartD
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You are right. I would play Poulter before Wilson or Hansen.
That is why i would be even more angry with Poulter. He has claimed many times he was gutted missing out last time and also that he was desperate to get in this year.
If i was Captain i would have told him to play at gleneagles to get himself in the team. If he did so our team would be stronger on paper (whether it turns out that way remains to be seen). If he didn't manage it then pick him if you wish.
Poulter going to the US to play seems a touch arrogant and it looks as if Faldo had almost assured him of his place. Poulter's argument about playing his 15 tournaments to keep his card does not stack up. He could have played one in the fall series after the ryder cup but this would result in him missing out on the fedex buck chase.
If i was Captain I would seriously question his commitment to the team but i suppose if Faldo was happy for him to do it that is all that matters. Some other players were not to happy at his attitude but thankfully they appear to be keeping a dignified silence for the sake of team morale.
toonarmy
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Alright andra, we get it - you hate the Englishman.
But to dismiss his Open performance (and particulalry that Open with its hideous conditions) is bigoted to the point of blindness. The bottle he showed in holing the putt on the last indicates he has the right sort of temperament needed for the Cup.
Base an argument on some fact and not just on random assumptions/accusations about sponsorship and inability to win stuff.
I can't help feeling that if Poulter was anything other than English the vitriol shown towards him would simply not apply. He might well be a bit of a dick, but it's in a harmless way (not exactly Garcia spitting in a cup is it?) and the only 'victim' is himself if he doesn't live up to his talk. He is a damn fine golfer and as I said before, what wouldn't the Americans give to have the same argument about who should and shouldn't go.
Unless my memory fails me Andrew Coltart was a pick wasn't he? He was gash. No-one seemed to clart on about that.
Everyone get behind the team and stop this idiotic nonsense of hoping 'we win but Poulter gets thrashed'. Do you think there is a single American who would hope that any of their team failed? And do we really want to let them have the moral high ground?
Let's try and remain as united a Europe as the Americans usually are not.
But to dismiss his Open performance (and particulalry that Open with its hideous conditions) is bigoted to the point of blindness. The bottle he showed in holing the putt on the last indicates he has the right sort of temperament needed for the Cup.
Base an argument on some fact and not just on random assumptions/accusations about sponsorship and inability to win stuff.
I can't help feeling that if Poulter was anything other than English the vitriol shown towards him would simply not apply. He might well be a bit of a dick, but it's in a harmless way (not exactly Garcia spitting in a cup is it?) and the only 'victim' is himself if he doesn't live up to his talk. He is a damn fine golfer and as I said before, what wouldn't the Americans give to have the same argument about who should and shouldn't go.
Unless my memory fails me Andrew Coltart was a pick wasn't he? He was gash. No-one seemed to clart on about that.
Everyone get behind the team and stop this idiotic nonsense of hoping 'we win but Poulter gets thrashed'. Do you think there is a single American who would hope that any of their team failed? And do we really want to let them have the moral high ground?
Let's try and remain as united a Europe as the Americans usually are not.
madandra
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You are correct AND Paul Lawrie was in the same side that failed dismaly but I am not banging on about Poulter 'cos hes English its because I don't think he has the mindset or attitude to succeed in the RC. And anyway, I thought the weather for the Open was amazing .. well I was in Benidorm
I will be cheering the guys on tho'.
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I hope I'm proved wrong for the team's sake, but Poulter is only in any competition for himself and his ego. Clarke and Casey would be the most obvious picks going on past (and present strokeplay) form.
vig
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I think it is nailed on that Poulter will pair with Rose.
I also think Sergio and MAJ will pair
How about Padraig and G Mac?
I also think Sergio and MAJ will pair
How about Padraig and G Mac?
John_Findlay
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Yeah, probably vig. With the two Swedes paired together Westwood maybe goes with Casey. Christ boys, look at these pairings. I'd be cackin' my pants if I were Azinger.
rgs
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Clarke stared down Stenson over the final 18 holes in Holland to win the Dutch Open. A few weeks ago he came 6th at the WGC in Bridgestone.
Clarke should have been nailed on as a pick given his current form, his superb RC record and his partnership with Westwood.
One from Casey & Poulter to make the other pick. Personally i would have picked Casey because i think he is a better matchplay golfer.
Poulter should have played in Scotland and made the team by right-great credit to Justin Rose for playing in Scotland. In my opinion I did not expect Rose to lose out but he still turned up and ignore Fed Ex cup points and money.
Clarke should have been nailed on as a pick given his current form, his superb RC record and his partnership with Westwood.
One from Casey & Poulter to make the other pick. Personally i would have picked Casey because i think he is a better matchplay golfer.
Poulter should have played in Scotland and made the team by right-great credit to Justin Rose for playing in Scotland. In my opinion I did not expect Rose to lose out but he still turned up and ignore Fed Ex cup points and money.
StuartD
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Bit harsh on Coltart toon. He only played in the singles and against Woods. He was a strange pick if you were wanting to take him then only play him in the singles.
One final thing on Poulter. There is a lot of flak coming his way in the media but if any one has the balls to ignore and put it behind them, its him
bernix
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I would have picked Clarke and Petterson, they would have added weight to the team
Imurg
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You're cruel Bernix
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birdieman
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Do you think they should just scrap wildcards and have top 12 qualify, there'd be no arguing then?
I think Poulter would qualify top 12. His world ranking is a lot higher than Clarke's too.
Mind you the forum would be a duller place!
I take on the points made but with regard to guys like Clarke and Monty who have played 5 and 8 times respectively is there not a case of blooding some rookies each RC to give them experience for the next one like you would do with a football team - a mix of experience and youth.
Garcia, Westwood, Harrington, Jimenez are all experienced campaigners now.
I think Poulter would qualify top 12. His world ranking is a lot higher than Clarke's too.
Mind you the forum would be a duller place!
I take on the points made but with regard to guys like Clarke and Monty who have played 5 and 8 times respectively is there not a case of blooding some rookies each RC to give them experience for the next one like you would do with a football team - a mix of experience and youth.
Garcia, Westwood, Harrington, Jimenez are all experienced campaigners now.
grumpyjock
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Agreed you need to pick those who may be picked in the future.
Tiro's need to be blooded to see if they can stand the pressure, if they don't them in 2010 some may be left out.
Monty said he would like to be RC captain in 2010, but he has had the experience and some new blood will be needed.
I have my favourites as well [not picked] but will not whine like a Jumbo just shrug my shoulders and get on with it.
play the game and look for the next one.
Tiro's need to be blooded to see if they can stand the pressure, if they don't them in 2010 some may be left out.
Monty said he would like to be RC captain in 2010, but he has had the experience and some new blood will be needed.
I have my favourites as well [not picked] but will not whine like a Jumbo just shrug my shoulders and get on with it.
play the game and look for the next one.
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