American Football fans.

It's called an opinion. Could you prove otherwise?

If its an opinion dont post it as a fact

This is from the owner of the Atlanta Falcons

Speaking before the Falcons’ game against the Detroit Lions in London on Sunday, Blank also said the logistics of having a UK franchise flying back and forth to the US were solvable and that young men and their families would love the chance to play in Europe.

“The players would welcome the chance to experience a wonderful city and travel around Europe. I don’t think being in London would be a problem for them.”
 
Seen as you are looking for facts.

Can you show the facts the suggest every game was sold out within days? Also the fact that there is over 90k on the reserve list for each game?

Neil Reynolds on Sky NFL mentioned the reserve list - and the NFL comissioner in his press conference ,mentioned the sell out
 
If its an opinion dont post it as a fact

This is from the owner of the Atlanta Falcons

Speaking before the Falcons’ game against the Detroit Lions in London on Sunday, Blank also said the logistics of having a UK franchise flying back and forth to the US were solvable and that young men and their families would love the chance to play in Europe.

“The players would welcome the chance to experience a wonderful city and travel around Europe. I don’t think being in London would be a problem for them.”

Sorry, where did I ever present it as a fact? Another cheap jibe and as I said, another thread where it's your opinion or its not valid. Bored now and off to watch Question Time

On the subject of your quote this has been said in various guises by most franchise owners since they started coming over and how much further forward are we? Anyway no doubt you'll continue arguing ad infinutum and another thread goes south. At least the panel listen to the points being argued on Question Time
 
Neil Reynolds on Sky NFL mentioned the reserve list - and the NFL comissioner in his press conference ,mentioned the sell out

I have presented many shows on the NFL for Sky Sports and know how much of this is spin and how much is complete bs. And when a pundit like Troy Aikman calls out the NFL for the scheduling issues and jetlag problems during the game broadcast of the Lions v Falcons, then you know there is a real issue.
 
Neil Reynolds on Sky NFL mentioned the reserve list - and the NFL comissioner in his press conference ,mentioned the sell out

Ok, so show me facts Phil, facts not opinions seen as you are so good on these facts. Opinions of sky pundits is opinion, did they back it up? A quick google only suggest the sell out was a few months ahead of the game not sold out in days.

And what you posted about the Atlanta owner is his opinion, that is not fact either.

I've a mate who lives and works in Dallas who says interest wasn't that great for an overseas game, is that point any less relevant?
 
I have presented many shows on the NFL for Sky Sports and know how much of this is spin and how much is complete bs. And when a pundit like Troy Aikman calls out the NFL for the scheduling issues and jetlag problems during the game broadcast of the Lions v Falcons, then you know there is a real issue.

So one pundit - what about all the others that have the opposite view ?
 
Ok, so show me facts Phil, facts not opinions seen as you are so good on these facts. Opinions of sky pundits is opinion, did they back it up? A quick google only suggest the sell out was a few months ahead of the game not sold out in days.

And what you posted about the Atlanta owner is his opinion, that is not fact either.

I've a mate who lives and works in Dallas who says interest wasn't that great for an overseas game, is that point any less relevant?


This is an article from Jan 2014 talking about the games this month

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nf...-reveals-London-moved-nearer-having-team.html

Sold in Jan for games 9-11 months away
 
I think Phil's offensive line has fallen over, the receivers have given up their routes and the defensive linemen have just buried the quarterback. This one is just so over!
 
I think Phil's offensive line has fallen over, the receivers have given up their routes and the defensive linemen have just buried the quarterback. This one is just so over!


Based on what exactky ?

Listening to Deion Sanders last night talking to Boomer mentioning how the excitement is growing for expanding beyond the U.S.

Talk of the NFL team in London bringing in £100mil each year

The main stumbling blocks being free movement in the EU and tax

NFL already talking to the European Commission and Culture Secetary already talking about sorting to the tax issue out

It's all going smoothly to have a franchise in London for 2022
 
I don't think the games need to sell out for it to be a success.

If they do have a franchise in London that team would be better supported most NFL teams. They would easily be top 5 imo.

The best supported team in the NFL is the Cowboys with about 88k per home game. 77k average would put the London team in the top 5 which is very achievable.
 
I guess the next issue is the venue. Hodgson and the FA are already moaning about having NFL games (today's Daily Mirrror) and with games in regular succession there have to be question marks about the quality of the pitch for the football team to use.

So the franchise is coming in 2022 according to our all knowing sage, now a specialist in NFL as well as proper football. I still don't see it happening for all the reasons listed before and probably a host more stumbling blocks raised if and when this was ever to get going. Where does the money to start the franchise come from being one?

I'm with Paul on this one. Definitely a QB sack and turnover
 
I guess the next issue is the venue. Hodgson and the FA are already moaning about having NFL games (today's Daily Mirrror) and with games in regular succession there have to be question marks about the quality of the pitch for the football team to use.

So the franchise is coming in 2022 according to our all knowing sage, now a specialist in NFL as well as proper football. I still don't see it happening for all the reasons listed before and probably a host more stumbling blocks raised if and when this was ever to get going. Where does the money to start the franchise come from being one?

I'm with Paul on this one. Definitely a QB sack and turnover

Venue? Simple.

England football team go on tour and nfl becomes the main occupier of Wembley. Everyone wins
 
I guess the next issue is the venue. Hodgson and the FA are already moaning about having NFL games (today's Daily Mirrror) and with games in regular succession there have to be question marks about the quality of the pitch for the football team to use.

So the franchise is coming in 2022 according to our all knowing sage, now a specialist in NFL as well as proper football. I still don't see it happening for all the reasons listed before and probably a host more stumbling blocks raised if and when this was ever to get going. Where does the money to start the franchise come from being one?

I'm with Paul on this one. Definitely a QB sack and turnover

The England team will go around the country playing games rather than just at Wembley so that's not an issue.

Helps pay for Wembley much faster and then maybe we can stop frigging around playing semi finals at Wembley.
 
The England team will go around the country playing games rather than just at Wembley so that's not an issue.

Helps pay for Wembley much faster and then maybe we can stop frigging around playing semi finals at Wembley.


Yep - very simple

The England would also then not play to half empty stadiums and might actually get a bit more support
 
I think its folly and too easy to rule out an NFL franchise in the UK. The game has to evolve and all sports are looking at ways to bring in more revenue - a UK franchise and fan base is one way for the NFL.

I've read Paul's piece and truthfully there's nothing in there that says those obstacles can't be overcome, should there be an appetite to do so. Twenty years ago the thought of an actual NFL game being held outside of the US was unheard of, but look where we are now.

Next year, the next baby step will be taken by actually hosting a divisional game at Wembley (Jets v Miami) and back-to-back games. If that goes well, then its another step forward to a UK franchise.
 
Venue? Simple.

England football team go on tour and nfl becomes the main occupier of Wembley. Everyone wins

Nope. Don't see that at all. The FA won't buy it. If so they'd already be taking England on the road. Wembley is their preferred venue of choice (and yes sod the majority of England fans north of Watford) and they only went on the road before when Wembley was being built. Really can't see them agreeing to give the venue up just for NFL
 
Nope. Don't see that at all. The FA won't buy it. If so they'd already be taking England on the road. Wembley is their preferred venue of choice (and yes sod the majority of England fans north of Watford) and they only went on the road before when Wembley was being built. Really can't see them agreeing to give the venue up just for NFL

I can see it. FA contract with Wembley expires in 2017. From then, main and important England matches held at Wembley, other less important and friendlies held elsewhere.
 
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