wjemather
Well-known member
Rounding is one of many calculations that no longer need to be performed by the player. Self-adjustment is another.
I'm interested to know what additional calculations you believe players need to do now?
Alterations to WHS?
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I'm interested to know what additional calculations you believe players need to do now?
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Ok. So I am playing a friendly 4BBB match but I do not know my three playing companions until just before I tee off.
What steps do I have to follow to work out the shots each receive given the information that will be known by each player or that is readily to hand…either on a board or in such as the IG app. I assume that this will be as a minimum, their HIs and their rounded CHs given from a table mapping HI v rounded CH for the tees we choose to play off.
And the steps are?
I can sort myself out for individual strokeplay, but will almost certainly find myself sorting out the shots for any friendly fourball match I play - and having a debate I really won’t want to be having…
What steps do I have to follow to work out the shots each receive given the information that will be known by each player or that is readily to hand…either on a board or in such as the IG app. I assume that this will be as a minimum, their HIs and their rounded CHs given from a table mapping HI v rounded CH for the tees we choose to play off.
And the steps are?
I can sort myself out for individual strokeplay, but will almost certainly find myself sorting out the shots for any friendly fourball match I play - and having a debate I really won’t want to be having…
Voyager EMH
Slipper Wearing Plucker of Pheasants
Initiate a chat, then give way to whatever the one with the hardest mates wants to do.Ok. So I am playing a friendly 4BBB match but I do not know my three playing companions until just before I tee off.
What steps do I have to follow to work out the shots each receive given the information that will be known by each player and that is readily to hand…either on a board or in such as the IG app. I assume that this will be as a minimum, their HIs and their rounded CHs given from a table mapping HI v rounded CH for the tees we choose to play off.
And the steps are?
I can sort myself out for individual strokeplay, but will almost certainly find myself sorting out the shots for any friendly fourball match I play - and having a debate…
That's how it seems to go at my club.
Genu9
Active member
Where do we find these Tables?
rosecott
Money List Winner
Reports - Course/Playing handicaps, assuming you are registered on the WHS platform.
wjemather
Well-known member
From April 1st, it will be 90% of the difference between rounded Course Handicaps.Ok. So I am playing a friendly 4BBB match but I do not know my three playing companions until just before I tee off.
What steps do I have to follow to work out the shots each receive given the information that will be known by each player or that is readily to hand…either on a board or in such as the IG app. I assume that this will be as a minimum, their HIs and their rounded CHs given from a table mapping HI v rounded CH for the tees we choose to play off.
And the steps are?
I can sort myself out for individual strokeplay, but will almost certainly find myself sorting out the shots for any friendly fourball match I play - and having a debate I really won’t want to be having…
Genu9
Active member
Something like this........Ok. So I am playing a friendly 4BBB match but I do not know my three playing companions until just before I tee off.
What steps do I have to follow to work out the shots each receive given the information that will be known by each player or that is readily to hand…either on a board or in such as the IG app. I assume that this will be as a minimum, their HIs and their rounded CHs given from a table mapping HI v rounded CH for the tees we choose to play off.
And the steps are?
I can sort myself out for individual strokeplay, but will almost certainly find myself sorting out the shots for any friendly fourball match I play - and having a debate I really won’t want to be having…
Had it from when WHS was introduced, just needs to be updated and checked'
It's WIP ATM but getting there.......
You take the HIs of each pairing, add them, divide by two. Higher of the two pairing gets shots on the difference.Ok. So I am playing a friendly 4BBB match but I do not know my three playing companions until just before I tee off.
What steps do I have to follow to work out the shots each receive given the information that will be known by each player or that is readily to hand…either on a board or in such as the IG app. I assume that this will be as a minimum, their HIs and their rounded CHs given from a table mapping HI v rounded CH for the tees we choose to play off.
And the steps are?
I can sort myself out for individual strokeplay, but will almost certainly find myself sorting out the shots for any friendly fourball match I play - and having a debate I really won’t want to be having…
Anything else is too complex to bother with.
wjemather
Well-known member
Or you could just use the spreadsheet calculator that CONGU have provided.
wjemather
Well-known member
I'm not sure which is worse.. making everything far more complicated than it is, or just making up random stuff.
Genu9
Active member
Yeah. If you're talking about the spreadsheet download it's a bit chunky........
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Are folk honestly saying that as I stand by the 1st tee I have to open up a bleedin’ spreadsheet to find the shots each get off the lowest. That is nuts. And if I don’t have access to the spreadsheet for whatever reason?
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
There’s 600+ posts on calculations do you really need me to point them out to you.
I pointed out your statement was wrong about “ doing less calculations than in the past”
D-S
Well-known member
Where is that to be found?
wjemather
Well-known member
Apparently they are! But no, you absolutely do not need to do that, and I have no idea why anyone would.
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wjemather
Well-known member
The updated calculator for use from April 1st is available to download from: https://www.englandgolf.org/2024-whs-update-resources
It's currently at v1.16 but it must be noted that there is an error on the 9-hole sheet (the CH value is rounded for the forward tee) that is due for correction in v1.17.
Voyager EMH
Slipper Wearing Plucker of Pheasants
Maybe its because they want to.
People mainly do what they want to rather than what they need to or ought to in these circumstances.
No fathoming it sometimes - human behaviour.
wjemather
Well-known member
My statement was not untrue.
There are 600+ posts about calculations that golfers do not need to do, or even know anything about.
Voyager EMH
Slipper Wearing Plucker of Pheasants
Yeah, but the conversation about those calculations, I find very interesting. Keep it up everyone, thanks.
Genu9
Active member
It also only has space for 3 players handicaps on the '18 holes 3 Tee' Tab on which you can select 4 Ball options.
